Head coach arrives late

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'm thinking this through.
Scenario 1: AC, while acting as the HC, earns a direct T. Once the HC arrives, he will be informed that he his AC earned him an indirect T while he was away, and the coaching box has already been forfeited.

Scenario 2: While AC is acting as HC, A7, sitting on the bench, earns a technical foul for being stupid. HC should be informed when he arrives that he has an indirect T and thus no coaching box. ACs can't get indirects, so this one is the HC's all along.

Alternate procedure that applies in either case: AC is informed he has two choices. He either takes on the role of HC for the entire game, or none of it. If he chooses door number 2, we can start the game with him on the bench coaching his kids, but he won't be able to utilize the coaching box nor request time outs. If he wants a TO, he'll need to have his players request it from the floor.

And yes, I agree with Jeff, the situation is exceedingly rare at the organized level. At summer level, whoever starts as HC will remain HC until he disqualifies himself.

And if this were situations that took place in the summer, we likely do not have a coaches box anyway and no one really cares. But during a regular season game if that was the case, that is how I would handle these situations for the most part.

But this is one of these "Referee shall make decisions on any points not specifically covered in the rules." (Rule 2-3)

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if this were situations that took place in the summer, we likely do not have a coaches box anyway and no one really cares. But during a regular season game if that was the case, that is how I would handle these situations for the most part.

But this is one of these "Referee shall make decisions on any points not specifically covered in the rules." (Rule 2-3)

Peace

We use the coaching box here during the summer, and it's not rare enough to see them try the "co-head coach" garbage.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

We use the coaching box here during the summer, and it's not rare enough to see them try the "co-head coach" garbage.

Well games are often on often played in side gyms, multiple courts in a field house and a coaching box is not a priority. Heck games are so laid back and so informal, that this almost never is an issue. Heck there are even times there are no benches, so coaching box is the least of our concerns.

Peace

[tlavan]

In PA, this would not be an issue, because we have a MANDATORY captains meeting at which the 'HEAD COACH' must be present.....and if the real HC is absent due to being late, then the HC for that game is the coach attending the captains meeting........

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tlavan

In PA, this would not be an issue, because we have a MANDATORY captains meeting at which the 'HEAD COACH' must be present.....and if the real HC is absent due to being late, then the HC for that game is the coach attending the captains meeting........

If we are talking regular season this is the case here too, but not sure there are any rules that cover this situation specifically so it would be up to the officials to decide what we allow the actual HC to do if he/she shows up. I would assume that in the meeting we would find out that is not the real HC, but there are places you might go and have no idea who that is unless you probe and ask further.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by tlavan

In PA, this would not be an issue, because we have a MANDATORY captains meeting at which the 'HEAD COACH' must be present.....and if the real HC is absent due to being late, then the HC for that game is the coach attending the captains meeting........

Connecticut (only) rule:

Captains-Head Coaches-Officials pre-game meeting should occur prior to start of game. If the head coach
refuses to attend the meeting, notify Board Commissioner, who will notify the school athletic
director and CIAC.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Connecticut (only) rule:

Captains-Head Coaches-Officials pre-game meeting should occur prior to start of game. If the head coach
refuses to attend the meeting, notify Board Commissioner, who will notify the school athletic
director and CIAC.

I think there's a big difference between "refuses" and "gets stuck in traffic and arrives late"

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Connecticut (only) rule:

Captains-Head Coaches-Officials pre-game meeting should occur prior to start of game. If the head coach
refuses to attend the meeting, notify Board Commissioner, who will notify the school athletic
director and CIAC.

In our state we are supposed to fill out a Special Report (used for unsporting and many unusual situations) if a HC does not attend the captain's and coach's meeting, but my understanding that is only for if the coach is present. If the coach is not there because of some delay or other unusual situation, I do not think I would even bother to contact the state.

Peace