question about double dribble

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

You don't know it's a dribble until the ball handler touches it again after releasing it. Until then it could just be a really lousy pass.

I agree with you, but the definition states that the "second" illegal dribble starts when the ball is pushed, thrown, or batted to the floor.

4-15-3: The dribble may be started by pushing, throwing, or batting the ball
to the floor before the pivot foot is lifted.

[bob jenkins]

It's the same old crap that gets brought up everytime we have this discussion. If NFHS clarified it, you'd be the firsts to know.

Until then, just officiate. It's never been an issue -- and if you happen to call it too soon, just decalre an inadvertant whistle.

[BktBallRef]

From the time the ball touches both hands until the time the ball hits the floor might be 3 tenths of a second. Are we really splitting that hair?

And some people say there are no stupid questions. smh

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

From the time the ball touches both hands until the time the ball hits the floor might be 3 tenths of a second. Are we really splitting that hair?

Add a few tenths of a second if the official wants to wait until the ball is touched after it bounces off the floor before he calls the illegal dribble violation.

[BktBallRef]

Okay BillyMac, if you want to wait 6 tenths of a second, by all means do.

Wait just as long as you want to.

As Bob said, just officiate the play.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Just officiate the play.

I'm waiting until the ball is touched again to call an illegal dribble violation. As bob jenkins pointed out, this is a "gray area" in the NFHS rules, and I may be wrong on a written test question regarding this situation.

Sometimes (often) you have to officiate the game. Sometimes (seldom) you have to take a written test. In theory they should have the same answer, but sometimes theory and reality don't agree.

[Raymond]

Sometimes people want to complicate matters more than is necessary.

The test doesn't make that distinction. It assumes that the official has judged the subsequent act a dribble and wants us now to judge its legality.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Sometimes (often) you have to officiate the game. Sometimes (seldom) you have to take a written test. In theory they should have the same answer, but sometimes theory and reality don't agree.

In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are different.