Yeh - I understand ur point. I was just letting u know my concern was not with what he was called for, but whether any foul should have been called. I think it was one of those where a patient whistle may have let it go. But, it's hard (if not impossible) for y'all to say without video.

Exactly. And the term is used in the casebook, which as far as I am concerned is just as good as any other terminology used in the rulebook.

Peace

There's nothing wrong with using the term illegal screen if you choose to do so. There is no signal in the Signal Chart for illegal screen nor is it identified as a foul in the rule book. The post was simply designed to express to the coach that his player was called for a blocking foul.

We now return you to our regular programming.

No - he was called for an illegal screen. Perhaps the ref should have given a blocking foul signal, but the only signals were a verbal "illegal" with the team control punch.

I can't remember the last time I saw a non-illegal screen non-holding blocking foul called on the offense in an NBA or college basketball game.....

Oh wait, it's probably because that has never happened. :rolleyes:

Depending a little on what you mean by "illegal screen" I've had a few calls like that for "chucking" or bumping the cutter.

I'm sorry I ever got involved with this topic. Just another reason I rarely post here anymore.

Really late to the party. THanks Arthur.

Seems like a "had to be there" sort of play. There are a lot of timing and spacing elements that are coming into play here. THat being said if the ball carrier is going to the rim and the player who is supposed to be guarding him runs into someone while running out of the way of the driver unless he gets laif out be excessive contact I'm probably going to pass.

I wish you would, Tony. You're always welcome.

Illegal screen or block. Potato or potatoe. No difference. Still a foul. same result.

For me, illegal screen is either a block or a hold signal but verbal is always "illegal screen".

I will say what they did and conclude with, "on the screen....."

Again it really does not matter in the end as long as the call is correct and the information is given. I just think I want to tell everyone there was an illegal screen and not just some other type of action. Saying "block" alone IMO is not clear enough to many. Not saying that all will be confused, but all it takes is the right time. That is why I say "Illegal screen" when describing the actions. But like the profession I am in on a daily basis, people do what works for them all the time and you are often not wrong if it works for you.

Peace