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Note: Over thirty-three years I've developed a bad habit of giving the preliminary signal for a blocking foul (at the site of the foul) with a blocking signal that includes my fists on my hips. I can always recover and go with my hands on my hips when reporting to the table. Anybody else have this problem? |
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Here, in my little corner of Connecticut, open hands, or fists, both seem to be acceptable. I've never heard any criticism, from anyone, that fists are unacceptable. Regarding player control foul signals, here in my little corner, any signal, or series of signals, seems to be acceptable. We've got 325 officials in my local board, and I bet that we have over 100 "acceptable" player control foul signals. |
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Actually it has nothing to do with "When in Rome..." as it relates to me. We have way more than 325 officials in the area. As a matter of fact I belong to 3 basketball association and one of them has almost 400 officials. No one is going to care that much about where you put your hands on something like this unless they have nothing else to comment about. But when you can referee plays, that is a minor issue. And when I see someone give a PC fouls signal "properly" it will be a first time I have seen it in years. Peace |
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#1, Who are you? I don't know you. As far as you're concerned, I am BktBallRef. #2, I wasn't impolite. #3, I know no such thing. Screens can be illegal but they are blocking fouls. If the contact prevented the defender from continuing to guard the opponent, then it's a foul. |
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No, you can't just run into an opponent and get a foul called. You stated that your player was setting a screen. Evidently, the official determined that the screen was not legally set. Don't get hung up on whether the dribbler used the screener not. |
Well considering that a screen's legality is at issue, I have no problem with using the term "illegal screen" to describe the foul. Now the signal most of the time is the "blocking" signal. I do not see either reference to be outside of rulebook language. Screens are legal or illegal and the rules makes that rather clear. Otherwise this is an issue of semantics.
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Not disagreeing with any of you but need clarification...
If calling a foul for illegal screen (on or off ball), why isn't the punch signal all I need? This is an offensive, team control foul which is the very definition of the punch (although like most in my area I also use it for PC as will). The two hands to the hip signal is for a block, which I see more as a defensive call. I agree that essentially an illegal screen would be a block or push and would indicate such at the table, but I am not sure why or how to signal this when it happens. I can't see using a fist, then punch, then block and if my partner simply signaled with the fist then the block i would be thinking foul on the defense, not offense. Is there something in the mechanics book that shows a prefered sequence? |
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Using my voice, "illegal!" or "team control", seems to alleviate any possible confusion when I make the call.
Communication. |
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I pointed out the foul was a blocking foul because the coach seemed to be concerned that his player was called for an illegal screen when he didn't set a screen. Sorry if that rubs you the wrong way. I would appreciate it if you would refer to me as BktBallRef when addressing me in this forum. Thanks. |
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