Ahhh...the joys of (almost) summer ball

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I worked games in two states (NY & NJ) this weekend.

So it depends on "where" you are whether you "wear" the patch or not. We never see em here.

Once last season I worked a private school tourney and showed up without a patchless shirt - had to cut it off before the game. First time I thought velcro was a good idea.

PS - and thanks to the spelling police. I went to public schools. Sometimes my writing is not so goodly!

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by grunewar

So it depends on "where" you are whether you "wear" the patch or not. We never see em here.

Where and what my partner does, though it does seem as though I've been patched up for my NJ summer games more often than not. I carry enough variations in my bag so I can match my partner.

[BillyMac]

Here, in my little corner of Connecticut, we are allowed to wear our IAABO patched shirts anywhere, anytime, as long as our partner is an IAABO member.

Since Connecticut is "pretty much" a 100% IAABO state, anybody without an IAABO patch is some type of "gypsy", freelancing, official, and most of us, including me, will not work with such an "uncertified" official.

In thirty-three years, I have never worked with an official that was not an IAABO member, in any type of game, recreation league, mens league, AAU, travel teams, etc. Never. Ever. I've never even had a choice. Every time, and I literally mean every time, I've walked into a gym, there's a patched IAABO official, or an unpatched rookie "cadet" IAABO official, there for me to work with.

[JRutledge]

It is only required to wear (state) patches during state sactioned games. People will wear them during summer leagues and even AAU/Travel type games. I often do not wear any patch during AAU/Traveling type games. Personal choice and no one really cares. It has been assumed in a couple of situations I have no license. I just laugh and think it is funny when that is assumed.

Peace

Originally Posted by just another ref

By rule, you can't overrule a call, no matter how wrong it may be.

You can give a partner information and allow him to change his own call, but I've never seen it on a travel.

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

The thought crossed my mind for about a half-second but as JAR said I can't overrule him and we both end up looking dumb if I run 60 feet to ask him what the heck he was doing. I did make a gentle mention during a time out that we should stay in our areas when possible but it didn't take.

I know, I know I have been tempted before to yell out "INADVERTENT WHISTLE" and give the ball back to the right team. Obviously not something that helps crew unity/chemistry or credibility.

I had one partner that was calling heavily in my area who I told to stop. That didn't go over well. Now I just say something like "hey just wanted to tell you some of the things I'm working on so you can help me out. I'm really focusing on calling in my area..." That seems to subtly remind them to:



As far as patches go I use my patched shirts for every game that I do, unless a college camp. I haven't heard any direction from my state organization regarding the subject. Guys working rec and AAU games have all manner of patches from many different years. I think the oldest patched shirt I've seen was from 2006.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is only required to wear (state) patches during state sactioned games. People will wear them during summer leagues and even AAU/Travel type games. I often do not wear any patch during AAU/Traveling type games. Personal choice and no one really cares. It has been assumed in a couple of situations I have no license. I just laugh and think it is funny when that is assumed.

Peace

If you made the right calls, this would not be the assumption

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

If you made the right calls, this would not be the assumption

Maybe if I cared it would matter.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Here, in my little corner of Connecticut, we are allowed to wear our IAABO patched shirts anywhere, anytime, as long as our partner is an IAABO member.

Since Connecticut is "pretty much" a 100% IAABO state, anybody without an IAABO patch is some type of "gypsy", freelancing, official, and most of us, including me, will not work with such an "uncertified" official.

In thirty-three years, I have never worked with an official that was not an IAABO member, in any type of game, recreation league, mens league, AAU, travel teams, etc. Never. Ever. I've never even had a choice. Every time, and I literally mean every time, I've walked into a gym, there's a patched IAABO official, or an unpatched rookie "cadet" IAABO official, there for me to work with.

Here, in another IAABO state, IAABO patches are required for HS games (all levels). Below that, not so much, and I tend to simply match up with what my partner is wearing. Some guys put their IAABO shirts away for the summer, some don't. There is one local middle school group that does not require IAABO certification. I personally don't care, but my experience tells me it's better to match for the game.

If one guy has a patch and the other doesn't, it opens up one of you as a target in that game.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Adam

Here, in another IAABO state, IAABO patches are required for HS games (all levels). Below that, not so much, and I tend to simply match up with what my partner is wearing. Some guys put their IAABO shirts away for the summer, some don't. There is one local middle school group that does not require IAABO certification. I personally don't care, but my experience tells me it's better to match for the game.

If one guy has a patch and the other doesn't, it opens up one of you as a target in that game.

I'm not sure about the "target" part of things but I know what I was taught: Match what your partner is wearing. The only situation where I'm lax on that is at camps since you never know what the other folks will have with them.

The way they put it to us: "If it's an outdoor summer game and your partner only has long pants, you put on long pants...then cuss out your partner at halftime for making you sweat so much!"

[Zoochy]

What if you summer partner is old school and only has a shirt with a collar?
Or a pocket?

[Rich]

I don't have a patch on a single shirt that I own.

You all should be jealous - it's the best system out there.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

What if you summer partner is old school and only has a shirt with a collar? Or a pocket?

How about ... wait for it ... a belt?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I'm not sure about the "target" part of things but I know what I was taught: Match what your partner is wearing. The only situation where I'm lax on that is at camps since you never know what the other folks will have with them.

The way they put it to us: "If it's an outdoor summer game and your partner only has long pants, you put on long pants...then cuss out your partner at halftime for making you sweat so much!"

The "target" comment comes from experience. It's not every game, but I've noticed that one partner or the other can get all the "abuse" when only one has the IAABO patch on.

Either you're perceived as the rookie who needs to "go to school", or you're the veteran who needs to take care of his partner.

I learned it was just easier to match.