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Old Thu Apr 10, 2014, 09:54pm
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Flop ??? (Video)

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I don't know what is worse, the flop or the actual call
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Old Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:28pm
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The worst part of the video is the parent cheering the flop.

At that level of basketball I'm sure the officials are very inexperienced, so I won't criticize them. I give them credit for looking off-ball.
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Old Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:31pm
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This video is disturbing on multiple levels…I'm talking about the actions of the players involved, their age, the fans reaction…a LOT wrong with this picture.
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Old Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:33pm
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The worst part of the video is the parent cheering the flop.
I dunno if they were cheering the flop, I think they were just reacting to the absurdity of it all.
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Old Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:47pm
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It was the correct call. There was no flop.

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Old Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:50pm
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Here is what I think I would do with that play in real time. If I was watching that match up, I would see what really happened. If I saw that out of the corner of my eye, I would call a push. The black player was pushing him at least a little bit because his arms follow the yellow player as he falls. If you pause the video at about 8 seconds, and just look at that picture, it sure looks like he got pushed. My question is, what do we do with it? Is that a T for faking being fouled? A play on?
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Old Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:53pm
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Here is what I think I would do with that play in real time. If I was watching that match up, I would see what really happened. If I saw that out of the corner of my eye, I would call a push. The black player was pushing him at least a little bit because his arms follow the yellow player as he falls. If you pause the video at about 8 seconds, and just look at that picture, it sure looks like he got pushed. My question is, what do we do with it? Is that a T for faking being fouled? A play on?
Call a foul on the defender for a trip.

Edit: Went back and saw the offensive player wasn't tripped. I'd just no call it.
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Old Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:33pm
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If I was watching that match up, I would see what really happened. If I saw that out of the corner of my eye, I would call a push. The black player was pushing him at least a little bit because his arms follow the yellow player as he falls.
True, but you can't call a pushing foul, because the pushing happened when the ball wasn't live. You either call a technical foul, wait for the ball to become live and call the push, or tell the pusher "hands off" while the ball is still dead.

At this level, I'm going with "hands off." The kids are still learning.
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Old Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:35pm
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True, but you can't call a pushing foul, because the pushing happened when the ball wasn't live. You either call a technical foul, wait for the ball to become live and call the push, or tell the pusher "hands off" while the ball is still dead.

At this level, I'm going with "hands off." The kids are still learning.
The ball was in the thrower's hands...
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Old Fri Apr 11, 2014, 07:37am
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It was the correct call. There was no flop.

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That's my take, too.

But, the green player also seems like a troublemaker, and I'd keep an eye on him for the next several minutes.
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I'm with Bob and Mark, I've got no problem with the call. Gold allowed himself to be pushed to the ground, IMO, but green put himself into a bad position by pushing his opponent.
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The ball was in the thrower's hands...
The pushing started long before the ball was in the thrower's hands. You can make a case for a T for dead ball contact, but I prefer to talk with the kid first.
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Old Fri Apr 11, 2014, 10:15am
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I like the call.....Next!
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Old Fri Apr 11, 2014, 10:39am
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I am wondering if there was some gamesmanship her. It appears that the dark jersey player was pulled or grabbed in some way. I would like to see the other angle. But it does appear the dark jersey player's arms do go forward. I am just wondering if this why the kid in yellow fell?

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