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Old Sun Mar 30, 2014, 01:16am
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It's Google Glass, not Google Glasses.

I've thought those would be fun to put on new officials to see what they're really watching. IT would certainly make it easy to show them how much ball watching they're really doing.
If only they could track what the eyes are really looking at...do they? Or is it just a view of which way the head is turned? If so, it may or may not tell you what they were looking at.
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Old Sun Mar 30, 2014, 02:35am
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The key is to centralize the replays in the NCAA tournament. Of course part of all the replays late in the game is that there is no Precision Timing, so the NCAA has itself to blame. People forget in an NBA Finals game between the Celtics and Lakers a few years ago there were three out of bounds replays in the final minute of the game in Boston.
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Even the "talking heads" on TBS were upset with how long it took on the replay. I forget who said it but to paraphrase what he said: The game was a wonderfully played, fast paced game for 44 minutes and 57 seconds and then it came to a screeching halt for over five minutes." The one of the other "talking heads" said that replay needs a "shot clock", maybe 30 seconds. The shot clock comment made me laugh because I have an intense dislike for the shot clock in any level of game, but that is another story for another time.

Yes, I was rooting for Wisconsin (because it is a Big 10 team) but the replay was so inclusive as to who actually knocked the ball out of bounds that the official who made the call could have initially ruled that the ball was last touched by both players and gone to a Jump Ball/AP Throw-in, and replay would have showed that he was correct.

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... the official who made the call could have initially ruled that the ball was last touched by both players and gone to a Jump Ball/AP Throw-in, and replay would have showed that he was correct.
That was my call initially, in real time, and after only one replay. Did those officials think that you really can't have a ball go out of bounds off of opposing players at the same time? Maybe it's in one of Isaac Newton's Laws, of one of Einstein's Theories? Something about no two things can really happen at the same exact time? One of those two players just had to touch the ball last, and damn if those officials weren't going to figure it out, come hell, or high water, no matter how long it took.
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the official who made the call could have initially ruled that the ball was last touched by both players and gone to a Jump Ball/AP Throw-in, and replay would have showed that he was correct.
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That was my call initially, in real time, and after only one replay. Did those officials think that you really can't have a ball go out of bounds off of opposing players at the same time?
I've met many official who have actually stated they will pick one or the other even when they think both got it or they couldn't tell who got it last in such a play. They, for some reason, think they calling a held ball is bad (their words, not mine).
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I've met many official who have actually stated they will pick one or the other even when they think both got it or they couldn't tell who got it last in such a play. They, for some reason, think they calling a held ball is bad (their words, not mine).
It will be a cold day in hell before I'd call a "held ball" in that situation. The only thing that communicates to everyone (regardless of your mental processing) is, "I have no idea how the ball went out of bounds, so I'm going to make no decision." Our order of processing is to ask for a partner to give help and our partner(s) give us what they got. A shrug is not acceptable in that situation.
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It will be a cold day in hell before I'd call a "held ball" in that situation. The only thing that communicates to everyone (regardless of your mental processing) is, "I have no idea how the ball went out of bounds, so I'm going to make no decision." Our order of processing is to ask for a partner to give help and our partner(s) give us what they got. A shrug is not acceptable in that situation.
If I know, 100% for sure, that the ball went simultaneously off two opposing players, I will give the held ball signal. That's the rule. That probably happens once each season. If I'm unsure about who it went off of first, well, that's a completely different story, and I'm asking for help from my partner, and if my partner can't offer me help, then he comes up with the held ball signal. If I make a out of bounds decision, and if I really screwed the pooch, then my partner, if he had a better look than me, will be expected to come in and offer me help, which I have probably accepted 100% of the time over the years. That's the way we roll here in my little corner of Connecticut. That's the way that the "cadets" are trained. That's the way that the veterans handle it.
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It will be a cold day in hell before I'd call a "held ball" in that situation. The only thing that communicates to everyone (regardless of your mental processing) is, "I have no idea how the ball went out of bounds, so I'm going to make no decision." Our order of processing is to ask for a partner to give help and our partner(s) give us what they got. A shrug is not acceptable in that situation.
So, you'd rather them guess even if they were not even looking at the play?

I have called a "held" ball on my own line before when both were touching it simultaneously. I just don't see why that is such a bad thing if that is what happened.
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