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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:17pm
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Instant Replay.

Instant replay needs to be thrown into the trash can immediately. The out-of-bounds calls in the Tennessee-Michigan and Wisconsin-Arizona games are the reason it must be done away with. In each game the game was stopped for well over five minutes. Players and coaches are standing around while the officials pour over super slo-mo videos that may or may not give them anymore information than what they observed in real time.

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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:28pm
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Make a 30 sec time limit. If you can't tell by then, leave it alone.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:34pm
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Instant replay needs to be thrown into the trash can immediately. The out-of-bounds calls in the Tennessee-Michigan and Wisconsin-Arizona games are the reason it must be done away with. In each game the game was stopped for well over five minutes. Players and coaches are standing around while the officials pour over super slo-mo videos that may or may not give them anymore information than what they observed in real time.

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There was nothing INSTANT about it. And to their credit, the NCAA only calls it replay, not instant replay.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:37pm
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Instant replay needs to be thrown into the trash can immediately. The out-of-bounds calls in the Tennessee-Michigan and Wisconsin-Arizona games are the reason it must be done away with. In each game the game was stopped for well over five minutes. Players and coaches are standing around while the officials pour over super slo-mo videos that may or may not give them anymore information than what they observed in real time.

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You right...let's keep the game moving whether the calls are correct or not. In fact, 40 minutes is probably too long. Let's simply employ a first team to score wins. That way we really don't need much of a rule book - maybe only 1 or 2 pages at most.

On second thought, let's just award the victory to the team whose players are paid the most - that way we can simply give the trophy to Kentucky and not even play the season.

C'mon, Mark. You're all about getting right. We need replay because officials make mistakes....get it right. The players, coaches, and the game deserves it.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:42pm
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Instant replay needs to be thrown into the trash can immediately. The out-of-bounds calls in the Tennessee-Michigan and Wisconsin-Arizona games are the reason it must be done away with. In each game the game was stopped for well over five minutes. Players and coaches are standing around while the officials pour over super slo-mo videos that may or may not give them anymore information than what they observed in real time.

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You sound like an old timer. Accept replay or stop watching.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:55pm
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You sound like an old timer. Accept replay or stop watching.

I am more than an "old timer" I am a "bald old geezer". The game is played by humans. It is coached by humans. And it is officiated by humans. If one could put Google Glasses on each officials, I would bet dollars to donuts that the officials will grade out significantly higher than the players and coaches. In fact, I would bet dollars to donuts that they would grade out at well over 95%.

But the point is, if it takes over five minutes or longer to make a decision over an out of bounds call and all of the close one must be reviewed in the last two minutes of the second half and each OT period, and all the replay does is show that the officials are correct in almost 100% of the times and the one in the Wisconsin-Arizona game was a toss up, how does that improve the game?

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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:05pm
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You right...let's keep the game moving whether the calls are correct or not. In fact, 40 minutes is probably too long. Let's simply employ a first team to score wins. That way we really don't need much of a rule book - maybe only 1 or 2 pages at most.

On second thought, let's just award the victory to the team whose players are paid the most - that way we can simply give the trophy to Kentucky and not even play the season.

C'mon, Mark. You're all about getting right. We need replay because officials make mistakes....get it right. The players, coaches, and the game deserves it.
If it's that important to get it right, why not make replay available throughout the game? There was a play down in the post where the ball went off the Arizona player as he made a spin move and they gave Arizona the ball back. That wasn't reviewable because it didn't happen under 2 minutes. Something that's reviewable in the last 2 minutes ought to be reviewable in the first 2 minutes.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:06pm
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If one could put Google Glasses on each officials, I would bet dollars to donuts that the officials will grade out significantly higher than the players and coaches. In fact, I would bet dollars to donuts that they would grade out at well over 95%.
It's Google Glass, not Google Glasses.

I've thought those would be fun to put on new officials to see what they're really watching. IT would certainly make it easy to show them how much ball watching they're really doing.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:14pm
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If it's that important to get it right, why not make replay available throughout the game? There was a play down in the post where the ball went off the Arizona player as he made a spin move and they gave Arizona the ball back. That wasn't reviewable because it didn't happen under 2 minutes. Something that's reviewable in the last 2 minutes ought to be reviewable in the first 2 minutes.
Replay rules are always a give and take between getting the call right versus the flow of the game. No one cares about the OOB call at the 10:00 mark in the first half...not enough to hold the game up for any significant period of time. In the final two minutes, with possessions at a premium, that extra possession means a lot more.

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I am more than an "old timer" I am a "bald old geezer". The game is played by humans. It is coached by humans. And it is officiated by humans. If one could put Google Glasses on each officials, I would bet dollars to donuts that the officials will grade out significantly higher than the players and coaches. In fact, I would bet dollars to donuts that they would grade out at well over 95%.

But the point is, if it takes over five minutes or longer to make a decision over an out of bounds call and all of the close one must be reviewed in the last two minutes of the second half and each OT period, and all the replay does is show that the officials are correct in almost 100% of the times and the one in the Wisconsin-Arizona game was a toss up, how does that improve the game?

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Not close to 100 percent of the time..not on OOB calls that are bangers...you (well not you because you don't watch the NBA) will see these type of plays (bangers) changed enough times that it's not rare.

And let's not act as if 5 minutes for an OOB replay is typical. Should they maybe tweak the system so that there's a time limit to the review? Sure. Take replay out of the game? You're living in a dream world.
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Old Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:32pm
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It's Google Glass, not Google Glasses.

I've thought those would be fun to put on new officials to see what they're really watching. IT would certainly make it easy to show them how much ball watching they're really doing.
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You sound like an old timer. Accept replay or stop watching.
You know, I agree with both of you. The delay in the Wisconsin game was ridiculous. At some point, either overturn it or say the original call was inconclusive. A minute is enough time.
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Old Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:13am
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You know, I agree with both of you. The delay in the Wisconsin game was ridiculous. At some point, either overturn it or say the original call was inconclusive. A minute is enough time.
Oh, five minutes for an OOB play is ridiculous. I won't argue with that. That's such an anomaly as to how these plays usually play out.
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It would seem the referees can't win for losing.

If they get a play like that wrong, everybody and their dog (including us) is freeze-framing it and slapping it up on the internet, and chatting about how they blew it and (others but not us) saying how it cost someone the game.

So they finally have the technology to ensure they get these calls right (wasn't it indicated a while back that the play we collectively get wrong the MOST is OOB?) we don't like the delay.

The delay is annoying, for sure - and, as some have commented, it may give an advantage to a team who is out of time outs. But I think it's worth it to get the play right.
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Old Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:23am
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It would seem the referees can't win for losing.

If they get a play like that wrong, everybody and their dog (including us) is freeze-framing it and slapping it up on the internet, and chatting about how they blew it and (others but not us) saying how it cost someone the game.

So they finally have the technology to ensure they get these calls right (wasn't it indicated a while back that the play we collectively get wrong the MOST is OOB?) we don't like the delay.

The delay is annoying, for sure - and, as some have commented, it may give an advantage to a team who is out of time outs. But I think it's worth it to get the play right.
If it's conclusive, they can get it right within a minute. If it's longer than that, it's not conclusive and they should stick with the call on the floor.
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Old Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:45am
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You know, I agree with both of you. The delay in the Wisconsin game was ridiculous. At some point, either overturn it or say the original call was inconclusive. A minute is enough time.
Better yet, have fans vote online in real-time. #arizonatippeditlast #pcfoulontennessee

Or.....lock John Adams and Art Hyland in a room full of tv's where they can review plays and issue rules interpretations on the fly.
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