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Old Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:04am
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You sound like an old timer. Accept replay or stop watching.
You know, I agree with both of you. The delay in the Wisconsin game was ridiculous. At some point, either overturn it or say the original call was inconclusive. A minute is enough time.
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Old Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:13am
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You know, I agree with both of you. The delay in the Wisconsin game was ridiculous. At some point, either overturn it or say the original call was inconclusive. A minute is enough time.
Oh, five minutes for an OOB play is ridiculous. I won't argue with that. That's such an anomaly as to how these plays usually play out.
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It would seem the referees can't win for losing.

If they get a play like that wrong, everybody and their dog (including us) is freeze-framing it and slapping it up on the internet, and chatting about how they blew it and (others but not us) saying how it cost someone the game.

So they finally have the technology to ensure they get these calls right (wasn't it indicated a while back that the play we collectively get wrong the MOST is OOB?) we don't like the delay.

The delay is annoying, for sure - and, as some have commented, it may give an advantage to a team who is out of time outs. But I think it's worth it to get the play right.
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Old Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:23am
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It would seem the referees can't win for losing.

If they get a play like that wrong, everybody and their dog (including us) is freeze-framing it and slapping it up on the internet, and chatting about how they blew it and (others but not us) saying how it cost someone the game.

So they finally have the technology to ensure they get these calls right (wasn't it indicated a while back that the play we collectively get wrong the MOST is OOB?) we don't like the delay.

The delay is annoying, for sure - and, as some have commented, it may give an advantage to a team who is out of time outs. But I think it's worth it to get the play right.
If it's conclusive, they can get it right within a minute. If it's longer than that, it's not conclusive and they should stick with the call on the floor.
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(wasn't it indicated a while back that the play we collectively get wrong the MOST is OOB?)
I wish I never got an OOB call wrong but if it was that hard to get it write with replay then I wouldn't expect any ref to be 100% in real time. Of course, I can't think of a time in my career that I've ever made a mistake.
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Old Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:45am
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You know, I agree with both of you. The delay in the Wisconsin game was ridiculous. At some point, either overturn it or say the original call was inconclusive. A minute is enough time.
Better yet, have fans vote online in real-time. #arizonatippeditlast #pcfoulontennessee

Or.....lock John Adams and Art Hyland in a room full of tv's where they can review plays and issue rules interpretations on the fly.
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I never see many of these situations that I agree with when it comes to out of bounds plays.

This is why IR needs to be gotten rid of. If they cannot get these plays right with replay, why have it in the first place. And it is taking too long.

And baseball wants this crap? Good luck with that.

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Agreed 100%.

This get the call right crap in the last two minutes is a farce. Same play happens at 2:01 and we play on. (as it should be)

Then again, Arizona had 5 minutes to come up with a play and they didn't get a shot off?
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This is why IR needs to be gotten rid of. If they cannot get these plays right with replay, why have it in the first place. And it is taking too long. And baseball wants this crap? Good luck with that.
Coaches make poor decisions. Players make stupid plays. Officials make incorrect calls. And all three groups are always trying to improve, all the time. No matter how good they eventually get, they want to get better. It's been that way since the days of James Naismith, Abner Doubleday, and Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mistakes in the past haven't really hurt these sports, look how popular they have become, both nationally, and for basketball, internationally. Eventually we'll want to have games played by perfect robots, coached by perfect robots, and officiated by perfect robots, and we'll just forget about the human factor. It will be like the movie, Real Steel, but with basketball, and baseball, instead of boxing.



The above post was from BillyMac, the sports purist. Now let's hear from BillyMac, the fan.

As long as my beloved Red Sox, and Celtics, don't get screwed, let's get rid of the replay.
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I felt the same way about replay in baseball.

I was a baseball umpire for a couple of years, and a non-certified official on various other sports too. It angered me to no end that people felt I, or my colleagues (most of which were better than me), needed a robot to help me do my job right. I also argued that the human factor was part of the game(s), and need not be taken out.

I was wrong.

Sports are not about the officials. We all know that, but some of us are not keeping that in mind when it comes to this issue. Officials are there to keep the game fair for those playing it. Inevitably, mistakes will be made, making the game less than fair. That's where replay comes in.. to help officials keep the game as fair as possible.

Don't think of replay as taking the place of you and I. Think of it as a tool for us to use to make the game as fair as possible.

If there is a problem with replay it's that people take too long with it. It doesn't take five minutes to determine if a call is right or wrong. Hell, we see numerous videos here under two minutes that definitively show the play in regular and slow motion. If you're still not sure at that point, then stick with the original call.

The only sad thing about replay is there will be officials that use it as a crutch, and therefore do not strive to be perfect, as they know the electronic eye will always bail them out. Thankfully, those officials will be kept down and away from things like the NCAA tournament, High School playoffs, and other "big" games.

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