Flagrant foul on Lebron (Video)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Altor

If this is a HS game, after Hibbert gets up with help from teammates and then falls back down, do you have him removed and evaluated for a concussion?

Originally Posted by deecee

Evaluated? If you think a player is concussed he's done for the game.

Altor works in NY? Because your answer is dead wrong for my state also.

[deecee]

I should have specified that in my state concussion type symptoms are treated differently. I guess my response to Nevada was based on a previous bias based on his past pedantic retorts and comments. In all honestly I should have qualified my basis for judgement but a common argumentative and patronizing leading response could have been the trigger for my sarcasm.

Either way there are many cases where the NFHS isn't the holy grail, it is regulated state by state.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by deecee

...based on a previous bias based on his past pedantic retorts and comments. ....

LOL, it's an epidemic this week.

[Rich1]

There is actually a case play dealing with a scenario where the ref sends the player off for concussion like symptoms and then a few minutes later said player reports at the table to enter game. The interp says we should let him in, assuming he has been properly cleared by team medical personnel as it is ultimately there responsibility to do so. (The previous statements paraphrase the material mentioned and are not intended to illicit pages of off topic banter about the "letter of the law" nor is it commentary on individual states application there of. They are simply provided for informational purposes.)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich1

There is actually a case play dealing with a scenario where the ref sends the player off for concussion like symptoms and then a few minutes later said player reports at the table to enter game. The interp says we should let him in, assuming he has been properly cleared by team medical personnel as it is ultimately there responsibility to do so. (The previous statements paraphrase the material mentioned and are not intended to illicit pages of off topic banter about the "letter of the law" nor is it commentary on individual states application there of. They are simply provided for informational purposes.)

Does this case predate the recent change to the concussion rule?

[Rich1]

Originally Posted by Adam

Does this case predate the recent change to the concussion rule?

The interp is from this current years casebook under 2.8.5 and basically says that if a player who was removed by an official for symptoms of concussion later reports to the scorers table to reenter that we should allow him in. It is the coach's/team's responsibility to obtain medical clearance and we shall assume they have done so without the need to verify it. Of course, all of this is moot if your state has stricter rules.

The rules (2-8-5 & 3-3-8) say we have the authority to remove the player until cleared but say nothing about how the player should be cleared. No authority to refuse the player entry is mentioned. Appendix B does go into great detail about concussion orocedures but these are guidelines, not rules, and seem to me to be directed more at coaches/schools than us.

By the way, in Texas, the UIL mandates that schools follow guidelines that are identical to these.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich1

The interp is from this current years casebook under 2.8.5 and basically says that if a player who was removed by an official for symptoms of concussion later reports to the scorers table to reenter that we should allow him in. It is the coach's/team's responsibility to obtain medical clearance and we shall assume they have done so without the need to verify it. Of course, all of this is moot if your state has stricter rules.

The rules (2-8-5 & 3-3-8) say we have the authority to remove the player until cleared but say nothing about how the player should be cleared. No authority to refuse the player entry is mentioned. Appendix B does go into great detail about concussion orocedures but these are guidelines, not rules, and seem to me to be directed more at coaches/schools than us.

By the way, in Texas, the UIL mandates that schools follow guidelines that are identical to these.

In the game where I had a player removed, there was no trainer on site. So I informed game management of my ruling, and had the coach tried to re-insert his player into the game, I would have had the book annotated that the HC was responsible for medical clearance.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich1

The interp is from this current years casebook under 2.8.5 and basically says that if a player who was removed by an official for symptoms of concussion later reports to the scorers table to reenter that we should allow him in. It is the coach's/team's responsibility to obtain medical clearance and we shall assume they have done so without the need to verify it. Of course, all of this is moot if your state has stricter rules.

The rules (2-8-5 & 3-3-8) say we have the authority to remove the player until cleared but say nothing about how the player should be cleared. No authority to refuse the player entry is mentioned. Appendix B does go into great detail about concussion orocedures but these are guidelines, not rules, and seem to me to be directed more at coaches/schools than us.

By the way, in Texas, the UIL mandates that schools follow guidelines that are identical to these.

Sorry, my question wasn't clear. I was wondering if this was a case that is held over from previous seasons.