Odd Throw-in

[bob jenkins]

No violation, relatively common play.

A can run the endline or pass the ball behind the endline to another player.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No violation, relatively common play.

A can run the endline or pass the ball behind the endline to another player.

NFHS Rules 7-5-7 a.

[LRZ]

What about the first part of the OP scenario? What is the authority for having A2 step back onto the court before the throw-in gets underway? Is A2 considered to have left the court for an unauthorized reason, under NFHS 9-3-3? Intuitively, I think actuary77 handled it properly (and "preventively"), but I cannot find anything specific to this situation.

[ballgame99]

My only thing to add on this is I've seen teams try to execute this play when they had a spot throw in, which is a violation. If you aren't paying attention (which I wasn' the first time it happened) you will miss that. I didnt miss it the second time the did it.

You also have to watch for the defender breakng the plane and knocking the pass away. That would be a technical foul.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by LRZ

What about the first part of the OP scenario? What is the authority for having A2 step back onto the court before the throw-in gets underway? Is A2 considered to have left the court for an unauthorized reason, under NFHS 9-3-3? Intuitively, I think actuary77 handled it properly (and "preventively"), but I cannot find anything specific to this situation.

A2 (and A3 A4 and A5) are all allowed to be off the court (on the endline) during and before this type of throw-in.

Sadly I saw this play in my first Middle School game and called a violation. Consulted my partner but he agreed with me. Thankfully didn't have to whack the coach.

My questions (since there appear to be no case plays): is there a limit on the number of times the players can pass between each other? Can both players run the end line simultaneously?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Sadly I saw this play in my first Middle School game and called a violation. Consulted my partner but he agreed with me. Thankfully didn't have to whack the coach.

My questions (since there appear to be no case plays): is there a limit on the number of times the players can pass between each other? Can both players run the end line simultaneously?

As a general statement -- they can do anything they want, for 5 seconds.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Sadly I saw this play in my first Middle School game and called a violation. Consulted my partner but he agreed with me. Thankfully didn't have to whack the coach.

My questions (since there appear to be no case plays): is there a limit on the number of times the players can pass between each other? Can both players run the end line simultaneously?

All 5 players could do a Rockette chorus line. For 5 seconds, anyway.

[LRZ]

Rule 7-5-7(a): "Any player...may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate(s) outside the boundary." The plural implies more than one teammate OOB and more than one pass. I missed this earlier.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by LRZ

What about the first part of the OP scenario? What is the authority for having A2 step back onto the court before the throw-in gets underway? Is A2 considered to have left the court for an unauthorized reason, under NFHS 9-3-3? Intuitively, I think actuary77 handled it properly (and "preventively"), but I cannot find anything specific to this situation.

Actually, he was wrong. The rule requiring no teammate of the thrower to be out of bounds during the throw-in only applies to a designated-spot throw-in. There is a specific rule stating that a team may have more than one player OOB for an end line throw-in. He should have allowed Team A to set up as they desired.

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Actually, he was wrong. The rule requiring no teammate of the thrower to be out of bounds during the throw-in only applies to a designated-spot throw-in. There is a specific rule stating that a team may have more than one player OOB for an end line throw-in. He should have allowed Team A to set up as they desired.

Yes, I know now; bob jenkins and Rich pointed out earlier, and Rob1968 cited the rule, Rule 7-5-7(a), which I had missed before.