Video request Dayton/Syracuse (Video)

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by OKREF

What say you all?

Block play: Nothing - that's not a foul.
Travel play: bad call - no possession = no travel.

[blindzebra]

Foul...not a foul...fumble. For those keeping score the game officials were 0-3, IMO.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Block play: Nothing - that's not a foul.
Travel play: bad call - no possession = no travel.

Are you saying the first drive wasn't a foul? Just want to make sure I understand what you're saying.

[Raymond]

On the first video, I have less of a problem with that no-call on the first play then I do the with the Trail calling a fall on the second play while he is straight-lined. He had no business putting a whistle on that play.

On the travel call, the official may have thought he lifted his pivot foot after gaining possession, prior to starting his dribble (which was not the case). I don't think he called it b/c of the fumble.

[ballgame99]

What is the justification for a no-call on the first block? The defender is not vertical, makes body contact prior to, or simultaneous to, the block. That has got to be a foul.

And then to come down the floor and call a foul on red with what looks like good D?

Fumble, no travel.

[zm1283]

I'm all for letting the defense play and not penalizing them, but that first block was a foul.

[rockyroad]

This first play is a great example of why new L's are told to get to the endline and get set up to receive the play. This L actually slows down and is shuffling the last 10 feet or so instead of busting his butt to get down there. As a result, I honestly don't think he even sees the defender coming from the inside to try to block the shot. Had he hustled and got down there and been in position, he might have had a better look at it.

And yes, I know we all get beat at times. This guy didn't get beat, he eased up.

So...could the C have come in with a whistle on that play? You NCAA-M guys can answer that...in an NCAA-W game, I would expect the C to have secondary whistle on that play.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

This first play is a great example of why new L's are told to get to the endline and get set up to receive the play. This L actually slows down and is shuffling the last 10 feet or so instead of busting his butt to get down there. As a result, I honestly don't think he even sees the defender coming from the inside to try to block the shot. Had he hustled and got down there and been in position, he might have had a better look at it.

And yes, I know we all get beat at times. This guy didn't get beat, he eased up.

So...could the C have come in with a whistle on that play? You NCAA-M guys can answer that...in an NCAA-W game, I would expect the C to have secondary whistle on that play.

To me it looks like both the L and the C are straight-lined, thus the no call. What if the T comes and gets this? Too much of a reach? Bad blood after the game?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

So...could the C have come in with a whistle on that play? You NCAA-M guys can answer that...in an NCAA-W game, I would expect the C to have secondary whistle on that play.

Rocky, I'm not sure that would have been an easy one for the C to get in one of our games just because of the defender's angle. The C probably sees the contact and the block but most likely would've had trouble figuring out which came first.

I think the T would definitely get it since we don't have to worry about the above-the-rim stuff. Heck, I know I picked up a couple of those this past season.

[JRutledge]

In the first video: I do not see a foul on the second play. I see more of a foul on the block, but understand why a foul was not called. Let them be athletes.

In the second video: Absolutely no travel. It was clearly a bobble.

Peace

[Toren]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

block play: Nothing - that's not a foul.
Travel play: Bad call - no possession = no travel.

+1