Louisville / UConn Women's Game

[RefCT]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Good thing you were not working the game last night, because you don't know the rules about how and when the ball becomes dead.

I guess that's why I am a JV ref then.

If A1 is passing to A2, and B1 fouls A2 before she touches the ball, wouldn't the act of touching the ball by A2 cause it to become dead? Or are you referring to the other situation where she is fouled after deflecting the ball (not a try for goal)? In that case, I could see the ball being dead and not counting the basket since it wasn't a legal try for goal.

Caveat - NFHS, not NCAAW.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by RefCT

I guess that's why I am a JV ref then.

If A1 is passing to A2, and B1 fouls A2 before she touches the ball, wouldn't the act of touching the ball by A2 cause it to become dead? Or are you referring to the other situation where she is fouled after deflecting the ball (not a try for goal)? In that case, I could see the ball being dead and not counting the basket since it wasn't a legal try for goal.

Caveat - NFHS, not NCAAW.

That is better.

It doesn't really matter the order of the foul vs. deflection. The ball is dead on the foul because it is not a try. The status of the ball is not determined by the touch of the ball. The only way the goal is scored is if it went in the basket before the foul, and then you'd have no foul (assuming it wasn't intentional or flagrant).

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by RefCT

I guess that's why I am a JV ref then.

If A1 is passing to A2, and B1 fouls A2 before she touches the ball, wouldn't the act of touching the ball by A2 cause it to become dead? Or are you referring to the other situation where she is fouled after deflecting the ball (not a try for goal)? In that case, I could see the ball being dead and not counting the basket since it wasn't a legal try for goal.

Caveat - NFHS, not NCAAW.

You fixed your own mistake.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RefCT

I guess that's why I am a JV ref then.

If A1 is passing to A2, and B1 fouls A2 before she touches the ball, wouldn't the act of touching the ball by A2 cause it to become dead? Or are you referring to the other situation where she is fouled after deflecting the ball (not a try for goal)? In that case, I could see the ball being dead and not counting the basket since it wasn't a legal try for goal.

Caveat - NFHS, not NCAAW.

You're close.

Touching the ball by A2 does not cause the ball to become dead. In this play, it's dead as soon as the foul occurs.

A foul causes the ball to become dead whenever there is no try involved.

[RefCT]

Thanks for the help and guidance guys. I joined the forum to become a better official (seeing the weird situations) and have enjoyed it so far.

This would probably be a good test question. The key phrase here being pass vs try for goal.