Louisville vs UCONN game

[tgav]

Lots of ugliness in this game

- Invalid fair catch signal resulting in a TD,
- Punt appears to touch B, A recovers, ref gives ball to B at S.O.F.T..

these guys should be playing playing golf next Saturday!

Been away from the ref game for a few years, glad to see not a whole lot has changed!

Tim

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by tgav

Lots of ugliness in this game

- Invalid fair catch signal resulting in a TD,
- Punt appears to touch B, A recovers, ref gives ball to B at S.O.F.T..

these guys should be playing playing golf next Saturday!

Been away from the ref game for a few years, glad to see not a whole lot has changed!

Tim

I am not sure about the fair catch signal.....but the silence on this board to the question may indicate the officials were wrong, at least as to how TV saw it.

On the punt,,,I think the kicking team touched the ball first.
But, again, silence here is telling.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

I am not sure about the fair catch signal.....but the silence on this board to the question may indicate the officials were wrong, at least as to how TV saw it.

On the punt,,,I think the kicking team touched the ball first.
But, again, silence here is telling.

It's Friday night, most officials that post on this board are probably working.

[JasonTX]

That is correct. Friday night is football game night for most of us. Just got back myself. I'm sure when we see the replays of the play in question we'll give our opinion.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tgav

these guys should be playing playing golf next Saturday!

Been away from the ref game for a few years,

There's a shocker.

[TXMike]

Looked like a clear invalid fair catch signal to me. It was invalid but still has the effect of the valid one in that ball should be dead when possessed. Maybe we will hear from Big East this week as there will be considerable media play on this. Replay rules do not specifically cover fair catches but 1 category of reviewable plays seems applicable: "A runner judged not to be down by rule"

The video:
http://www.youtube.com/v/rbRdZZ1kfag

[tgav]

Help me out here, in a 7 man game B, has receiver, F and/or S has blockers in front of ball and amongst other things, the receiver, to make sure receiver doesn't block after a valid/invalid signal, right?

Proper call should have been, dead ball at spot of recovery, 5 yds for invalid signal and 5 yd delay of game?

[JasonTX]

Originally Posted by tgav

Help me out here, in a 7 man game B, has receiver, F and/or S has blockers in front of ball and amongst other things, the receiver, to make sure receiver doesn't block after a valid/invalid signal, right?

Proper call should have been, dead ball at spot of recovery, 5 yds for invalid signal and 5 yd delay of game?

That crew might get hammered for missing the signal, but I can guarantee you they'd get hammered even worse if they enforced a 5 yd. penalty for an invalid signal. That is not a foul under NCAA rules.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

I am not sure about the fair catch signal.....but the silence on this board to the question may indicate the officials were wrong, at least as to how TV saw it.

On the punt,,,I think the kicking team touched the ball first.
But, again, silence here is telling.

That's a dumb assumption.

Most are working on Fridya night.

Most will not see a Friday night TV game.

I guess we're supposed to reply anyway?

[sj]

Originally Posted by tgav

]Proper call should have been, dead ball at spot of recovery, 5 yds for invalid signal and 5 yd delay of game?

Nope. But you can try again.

[DJ_NV]

NCAA: There is no foul for an invalid FC signal. Is this a delay of game foul by B? Technically, yes (6-5-2). However in practice, this covering official should almost never have a flag for this as he should be clearly killing the play after the catch/recovery.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JasonTX

That crew might get hammered for missing the signal, but I can guarantee you they'd get hammered even worse if they enforced a 5 yd. penalty for an invalid signal. That is not a foul under NCAA rules.

There was a time NCAA had separate provisions for "invalid" and "illegal" FCS.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by JasonTX

That crew might get hammered for missing the signal, but I can guarantee you they'd get hammered even worse if they enforced a 5 yd. penalty for an invalid signal. That is not a foul under NCAA rules.

So what should have happened?

[TXMike]

Someone should have seen the invalid FC signal and that someone should have blown a whistle as soon as he saw the returner had possession. If the returner had continued to try to advance (even though ball was dead), ball should be taken to where he took possession and the receivers penalized 5 yards from there for delay of game.