NCAA Tournament and Precision Timing

[tmagan]

I ask this question every year at this time:

Will the 2014 NCAA men's basketball tournament have 'Precision Timing'?

[Raymond]

no

[tjones1]

I wouldn't bet on it.

I really don't understand it but it's a money issue.

[tmagan]

So let me understand, Precision Timing is not needed, but every time the whistle blows late in the Oregon/Wisconsin game, the Stand By official has to summon the scorers table hurriedly to sound the horn to get the officials attention to put more time back on the clock. All in all, well done NCAA.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by tmagan

So let me understand, Precision Timing is not needed, but every time the whistle blows late in the Oregon/Wisconsin game, the Stand By official has to summon the scorers table hurriedly to sound the horn to get the officials attention to put more time back on the clock. All in all, well done NCAA.

I too thought the end of that game could have been handled better.

Originally Posted by tjones1

it's a money issue.

Do you have a source for that information? I heard that last year and again this year but have yet to hear this from a verifiable source.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I too thought the end of that game could have been handled better.

Yeah with that and the held-ball call. I also realized that I am not a fan of Ed Corbett or his mechanics.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Yeah with that and the held-ball call. I also realized that I am not a fan of Ed Corbett or his mechanics.

Is he the one who makes the goofy exaggerated point to the designated spot?

(Regardless - even as a Badger fan, the technical was well-earned.)

Originally Posted by Rich

Is he the one who makes the goofy exaggerated point to the designated spot?

And quadruple tweeting at a player to give him the ball after a called foul and granting timeouts from across the court when the coach was asking the tableside official who was like 3 feet away.

Edit: and dual finger pointing to the sky on a held-ball call.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by AremRed

And quadruple tweeting at a player to give him the ball after a called foul and granting timeouts from across the court when the coach was asking the tableside official who was like 3 feet away.

Edit: and dual finger pointing to the sky on a held-ball call.

Starting to see that appear here from certain high school local associations around here.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Starting to see that appear here from certain high school local associations around here.

One of the mechanics our crew had adopted is that when a ball is tied up, the crew blow whistles but do not signal until we verify that none of us have a foul, have granted a timeout, etc. Then and only then do we give the two thumbs up.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

One of the mechanics our crew had adopted is that when a ball is tied up, the crew blow whistles but do not signal until we verify that none of us have a foul, have granted a timeout, etc. Then and only then do we give the two thumbs up.

This originally sounded really good to me. But, what happens if the held ball occurs before the foul (not intentional, nor flagrant) and each official sees something differently? Do you ignore the possibility that the held ball came before the foul (one foul signal trumps held ball), or do you discuss the situation with your partner before deciding on a call?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I wouldn't bet on it.

I really don't understand it but it's a money issue.

How much money is it really?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

This originally sounded really good to me. But, what happens if the held ball occurs before the foul (not intentional, nor flagrant) and each official sees something differently? Do you ignore the possibility that the held ball came before the foul (one foul signal trumps held ball), or do you discuss the situation with your partner before deciding on a call?

It's either tied up cleanly, or it isn't. Normally an official is going to come in hard with a foul or a travel that precedes the held ball. That covers 95% of the situations. If a held ball causes a travel, then the crew member that sees that is going to have to initiate a conversation.

[BillyMac]

Regarding a foul, or a travel, that is subsequent to the held ball:

Originally Posted by Rich

If a held ball causes a travel, then the crew member that sees that is going to have to initiate a conversation.

Cool.