NCAA Tournament and Precision Timing

[JRutledge]

Giving an "open hand" on a held ball might look like you had a violation, then defaulted to a "held ball." At least when you signal "held ball" you are telling everyone that is what you have and there is no confusion.

Peace

[Rich1]

The open hand is for violations, the closed hand for fouls. A jump ball is neither which is why we simply signal it as a jump ball.

Our practice around here is to blow the whistle and take several steps toward the action (moving in to prevent continued jostling about) before giving the jump ball signal. This gives us a few seconds to see if our partners have something different.

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by Rich1

Our practice around here is to blow the whistle and take several steps toward the action (moving in to prevent continued jostling about) before giving the jump ball signal. This gives us a few seconds to see if our partners have something different.

I like that idea. Although I move in when there actually is too much wrestling, it's usually after giving the jump ball signal. I never thought about delaying the signal momentarily as a technique to allow some quick communication. Thanks, I'll have to remember and apply this idea next season.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by Rich1

The open hand is for violations, the closed hand for fouls. A jump ball is neither which is why we simply signal it as a jump ball.

I get what you're saying and I agree with it, but the open hand is for stopping the clock, not just violations.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Rooster

I get what you're saying and I agree with it, but the open hand is for stopping the clock, not just violations.

It's not for stopping the clock for a held ball, though.

Originally Posted by Rich

It's not for stopping the clock for a held ball, though.

It can be. Just because there is a specific signal to stop the clock for a held ball does not mean we need to use that signal.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

It can be. Just because there is a specific signal to stop the clock for a held ball does not mean we need to use that signal.

I could do the hokey pokey to stop the clock, too. It would be just as wrong to do so on a held ball as raising an open hand.

Originally Posted by Rich

I could do the hokey pokey to stop the clock, too.

That might work, assuming you whistle too

[constable]

Originally Posted by AremRed

It can be. Just because there is a specific signal to stop the clock for a held ball does not mean we need to use that signal.

I am going to disagree here. Signals are part of the rule book. It states that a fist is to be used for a foul, a palm for a violation or other timeout, and the held ball signal to stop the clock for a held ball.

It is pretty clear.

[constable]

Originally Posted by Rich1

The open hand is for violations, the closed hand for fouls. A jump ball is neither which is why we simply signal it as a jump ball.

Our practice around here is to blow the whistle and take several steps toward the action (moving in to prevent continued jostling about) before giving the jump ball signal. This gives us a few seconds to see if our partners have something different.

If your partners have something different then you figure it out. If I have a held ball and my partner has a foul, figured out which came first.