Two plays, two great calls, one official (video)

Originally Posted by APG

If it's a blocking foul regardless of being in the RA or not, there's no pointing to the RA

As JetMet and Camron have alluded to, wouldn't it be an easier sell to point to the RA even if it was a block anyway?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Do you officiate games in which the RA and the LDB are used??

Yes and no. Took this year off from college games, so worked with the RA for a few years, but never the LDB.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

As JetMet and Camron have alluded to, wouldn't it be an easier sell to point to the RA even if it was a block anyway?

If you have a block, regardless of the RA, you do not point. What if your partner comes in and says that the defender actually wasn't in the RA?

[APG]

Originally Posted by AremRed

As JetMet and Camron have alluded to, wouldn't it be an easier sell to point to the RA even if it was a block anyway?

In this case, sure it doesn't hurt...

But as BNR alluded to, what happens if you're saying you have an RA block and your partner tells you the defender wasn't in the RA? Or your partner comes in and tells you the play started in the LDB?

[Toren]

Originally Posted by APG

In this case, sure it doesn't hurt...

But as BNR alluded to, what happens if you're saying you have an RA block and your partner tells you the defender wasn't in the RA? Or your partner comes in and tells you the play started in the LDB?

Glad I work on the men's side where all we have to worry about is blarges

See what I did there?

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

And you're older than you look...Calm down!

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If you have a block, regardless of the RA, you do not point. What if your partner comes in and says that the defender actually wasn't in the RA?

Presumably I would only point to the RA if I was a 100% the defender was there.....which I would do anyway if it were a typical RA play.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Presumably I would only point to the RA if I was a 100% the defender was there.....which I would do anyway if it were a typical RA play.

The NCAA has posted plenty of videos where officials have incorrectly pointed to the RA.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The NCAA has posted plenty of videos where officials have incorrectly pointed to the RA.

Which probably result in wrong calls which happen anyway. I don't see why if you see the defenders feet in the RA, even if it's gonna be a block anyway, pointing to the RA is a bad thing.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Which probably result in wrong calls which happen anyway. I don't see why if you see the defenders feet in the RA, even if it's gonna be a block anyway, pointing to the RA is a bad thing.

The problem is that pointing to the RA indicates the play would have been a PC/charge if it happened outside the RA. Pointing to the RA gives your partners the opportunity to provide information regarding the location of the defender, that they would not provide if you just call a block. If you are then presented with evidence that the defender was indeed outside the RA, you are going to have a hard time justifying not changing the call to PC/charge and explaining to the coach that it would have been a block anywhere on the court, you were just too lazy to use the correct mechanic.

Originally Posted by johnny d

The problem is that pointing to the RA indicates the play would have been a PC/charge if it happened outside the RA. Pointing to the RA gives your partners the opportunity to provide information regarding the location of the defender, that they would not provide if you just call a block. If you are then presented with evidence that the defender was indeed outside the RA, you are going to have a hard time justifying not changing the call to PC/charge and explaining to the coach that it would have been a block anywhere on the court, you were just too lazy to use the correct mechanic.

Ok, I understand now. Not pointing to the RA leaves open the option of your partner(s) coming with info.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Ok, I understand now. Not pointing to the RA leaves open the option of your partner(s) coming with info.

If you don't point to the RA, partners have no information to bring; you are calling a block b/c of illegal contact by the defender.

If you point to the RA, you are saying that normally it would be a PC, but b/c the defender was in the RA it is, by rule, a block.

The most likely time a partner will bring information is if you call a PC and the defender was in the RA.