Crazy Ending & Kicked rule!

[The_Rookie]

Playoff game GV...I did not work the game but heard about from colleagues

1.1 seconds in Q4 A leads 39-38 over B.

a) A inbounds under B basket and pass intercepted by B2..a2 fouls b2 1+1

b) Officials put .3 secs on clock. B2 shoots Ft and violation did not hit rim

c) A1 throw in under B basket and tosses a football pass that did not touch anyone and goes OOB on the opposite end line under A basket..still .3 secs.

d) Since no touch B1 inbounds under B's hoop..B1 throws in to B2 who catches and shoots..basket is counted by the crew and B wins 40-39!

A is now out of the playoffs!

Comments oh how you would deal with this if you were the assignor with crew..

[bob jenkins]

If all are sure that it was a catch-and-shoot, then I'd make sure the crew knows the rule.

The rest it sounds like they did a good job on.

[JetMetFan]

Somehow I have a feeling this play will be posted on YouTube by either a very happy or very disgruntled fan...

The first thing I'd try to find out is whether they communicated in any way prior to the final play, even to just make eye contact and point at the clock. The next thing would be to find out whether they communicated *after* the shot went in.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

b) Officials put .3 secs on clock.

Do you mean the clock ran out but the officials ruled the whistle was at .3 and put the time back on the clock?

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Do you mean the clock ran out but the officials ruled the whistle was at .3 and put the time back on the clock?

Yes...

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Somehow I have a feeling this play will be posted on YouTube by either a very happy or very disgruntled fan...

The first thing I'd try to find out is whether they communicated in any way prior to the final play, even to just make eye contact and point at the clock. The next thing would be to find out whether they communicated *after* the shot went in.

LOL..Video already in circulation

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

LOL..Video already in circulation

And you haven't sent me the link yet because...?

[j51969]

a) A inbounds under B basket and pass intercepted by B2..a2 fouls b2 1+1

- Team A's fault. Unless the assertion is the crew blew the call.

b) Officials put .3 secs on clock. B2 shoots Ft and violation did not hit rim

- Crew may have very well been all over this one. Need video to see for sure

c) A1 throw in under B basket and tosses a football pass that did not touch anyone and goes OOB on the opposite end line under A basket..still .3 secs.

- Again A's fault. Looks like they are doing everything they can to lose.

d) Since no touch B1 inbounds under B's hoop..B1 throws in to B2 who catches and shoots..basket is counted by the crew and B wins 40-39!

- Need video to provide more, but sounds like A allowed a player to get open even though it's a 4 on 5 situation

A is now out of the playoffs!

This really isn't that crazy. These situations happen all year long, but gain more attention given whats at stake. You'll see it happen atleast 6 times during the NCAA tournament. Post video so we can see what you saw.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Yes...

The question then becomes one of if they chose 0,3 out of thin air or whether one of them saw 0.3 on the clock. Short of one of them telling us, we'll never know.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The question then becomes one of if they chose 0,3 out of thin air or whether one of them saw 0.3 on the clock. Short of one of them telling us, we'll never know.

+1 I'm always leery of putting tenths back on a clock. I'm even more leery when it turns out the crew didn't know you can't catch and shoot with 3 tenths.

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by just another ref

+1 I'm even more leery when it turns out the crew didn't know you can't catch and shoot with 3 tenths.

That is the HUGE issue here..allowing the basket to count

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

That is the HUGE issue here..allowing the basket to count

Do we know that the crew agrees it was a catch-and-shoot, or did they think it was a tip/tap/bat?

[Pantherdreams]

Is this an NFHS/FIBA difference, but isn't a free throw violation a SLOB foul line extended not a baseline play?

IF the crew went with a discussion leading .3 and didn't every say "Ok, but .3 means there will not be another catch and shoot only a tip/touch" then whoops . . . ruh roh shaggy.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

Is this an NFHS/FIBA difference, but isn't a free throw violation a SLOB foul line extended not a baseline play?

The violation is in the "rocket ship" area, so the throw-in is at the endline.

[MD Longhorn]

A) Rookie --- what's your complaint?
B) Where is this video someone says exists?
C) Didn't we just do the erroneous 0.3 catch and shoot 3 weeks ago?