Stupid Question

[Terrapins Fan]

Odd things make for interesting questions. I had a player today, knock the ball away after a made basket. I warned the team about it. About 5 minutes later he does it again and I call the T for delay of game. The problem was it knocked it away after the opponent made a basket and his team was getting ready to in bound the ball.

Can it still be a delay if you are knocking it away from your own team mates?

What he did was cup the ball and throw it OOB with force, both times.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Odd things make for interesting questions. I had a player today, knock the ball away after a made basket. I warned the team about it. About 5 minutes later he does it again and I call the T for delay of game. The problem was it knocked it away after the opponent made a basket and his team was getting ready to in bound the ball.

Can it still be a delay if you are knocking it away from your own team mates?

What he did was cup the ball and throw it OOB with force, both times.

I'd just start my count.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Stupid Question

There's no such thing as a stupid question, but there is such a thing as a stupid play. What did Art Linkletter say? "Kids do the stupidest things."?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Odd things make for interesting questions. I had a player today, knock the ball away after a made basket. I warned the team about it. About 5 minutes later he does it again and I call the T for delay of game. The problem was it knocked it away after the opponent made a basket and his team was getting ready to in bound the ball.

Can it still be a delay if you are knocking it away from your own team mates?

What he did was cup the ball and throw it OOB with force, both times.

I agree with Adam. He's only hurting his own team. Start the count.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I agree with Adam. He's only hurting his own team. Start the count.

That certainly may be the best way to handle it but it would not be incorrect to call delay for such actions. There is no distinction in the rule regarding who does it and who it affects.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That certainly may be the best way to handle it but it would not be incorrect to call delay for such actions. There is no distinction in the rule regarding who does it and who it affects.

It's true...

10-1-5: A team shall not:
Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest, this includes
the following and similar acts:
a. When the clock is not running consuming a full minute through not being
ready when it is time to start either half.
b. Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or
from being put in play. See 7-5-1 and 8-1-2 for the resumption-of-play
procedure to use after a time-out or the intermission between quarters. The
procedure is used prior to charging a technical foul in these specific
situations.
c. Commit a violation of the throw-in boundary-line plane, as in 9-2-10, after
any team warning for delay.
d. Contact with the free thrower or a huddle of two or more players in the lane
by either team prior to a free throw following any team warning for delay.
e. Interfering with the ball following a goal after any team warning for delay.
f. Not having the court ready for play following any time-out after any team
warning for delay.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

e. Interfering with the ball following a goal after any team warning for delay.

It is not possible to interfere with the ball when it's your ball.

jmo

[Terrapins Fan]

thanks everyone. I have seen more strange things in basketball this year than my last 13 combined.

I think it must be due to Global Warming....

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I think it must be due to Global Warming....

You need to walk outside!

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

What he did was cup the ball and throw it OOB with force, both times.

Here's where I'd be sticking him. Definitely HTBT, but if he's unsporting, "Up next on the number one tee..."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

It is not possible to interfere with the ball when it's your ball.

So? Let's see? That means that we can never have offensive basket interference. Wait? I'm being told ... What? We can? Nevermind.

(Yeah. Yeah. I know. No team control on a shot.)

[letemplay]

Suppose this happens in a NFHS game, with under 10 seconds and B out of time outs, following a B basket that cuts the score to one. OP doesn't say where ball goes, after cupping and throwing with force, and simply starting the 5 count on A would seem appropriate, but what if the ball careens off wall or whatever it hits at such an angle to force A player to literally have to chase it down and scramble just to get back in throwing position and get it released. Then HC A maybe has to take a TO to avoid the violation...could be some kinda wacky ending. Guess that's better than having the game possibly decided by a T here.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Suppose this happens in a NFHS game, with under 10 seconds and B out of time outs, following a B basket that cuts the score to one. OP doesn't say where ball goes, after cupping and throwing with force, and simply starting the 5 count on A would seem appropriate, but what if the ball careens off wall or whatever it hits at such an angle to force A player to literally have to chase it down and scramble just to get back in throwing position and get it released. Then HC A maybe has to take a TO to avoid the violation...could be some kinda wacky ending. Guess that's better than having the game possibly decided by a T here.

B throws it? I'm letting the clock run and letting A retrieve the ball unless it's impossible for me to do so. Count doesn't start till it's at A's disposal.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rich

B throws it? I'm letting the clock run and letting A retrieve the ball unless it's impossible for me to do so. Count doesn't start till it's at A's disposal.

I think A threw it. I'm deeming it to be at the disposal and starting the count.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I think A threw it. I'm deeming it to be at the disposal and starting the count.

Me too.