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pfan1981 Wed Feb 19, 2014 01:03pm

Here is how I envision it....

If a players gathers the ball in mid-air and simultaneously jump stops, he can pivot on either foot.

If a players gathers the ball with one foot on the ground (his pivot foot), jumps off of said foot, simultaneously jump stops......the players is frozen in concrete.

right?!?!?!!?

bob jenkins Wed Feb 19, 2014 01:22pm

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 923600)
Here is how I envision it....

If a players gathers the ball in mid-air and simultaneously jump stops, he can pivot on either foot.

If a players gathers the ball with one foot on the ground (his pivot foot), jumps off of said foot, simultaneously jump stops......the players is frozen in concrete.

right?!?!?!!?

"frozen" is too strong, but otherwise seems correct

BillyMac Wed Feb 19, 2014 05:12pm

Inquiring Minds Want to Know ...
 
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 923612)
"Frozen" is too strong, but otherwise seems correct

Why is "frozen in concrete" too strong of a description?

Rob1968 Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:10am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 923643)
Why is "frozen in concrete" too strong of a description?

Bob can answer for himself, so the following is my own understanding:

Having performed a jumpstop as described, the player can lift either foot, or both, but cannot legally return the one or both to the floor, before either shooting, passing, being granted a timeout, or having the period time run out. Thus, "frozen in concrete" seems a bit too restrictive.

pfan1981 Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:34am

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Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 923703)
Bob can answer for himself, so the following is my own understanding:

Having performed a jumpstop as described, the player can lift either foot, or both, but cannot legally return the one or both to the floor, before either shooting, passing, being granted a timeout, or having the period time run out. Thus, "frozen in concrete" seems a bit too restrictive.

True, the player may jump to pass or shoot.

Adam Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:45am

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 923706)
True, the player may jump to pass or shoot.

Or he may "step through" as long as he relinquishes control before putting that step foot down. One way to think of it is to consider both feet the pivot with all the restrictions of a pivot foot.

Johnny Ringo Thu Feb 20, 2014 01:33pm

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Originally Posted by Refsmitty (Post 923480)
Dribbles - picks it - jumps defenders in paint - left - right - layup

Refsmitty, just stand up and do this play now - what do you think?

Refsmitty Thu Feb 20, 2014 04:11pm

Ouch
 
I think I would hurt myself!:eek:

I got a travel with the move I was discussing.

BillyMac Thu Feb 20, 2014 04:38pm

Thanks For The Confirmation ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 923703)
Having performed a jumpstop as described, the player can lift either foot, or both, but cannot legally return the one or both to the floor, before either shooting, passing, being granted a timeout, or having the period time run out.

That's what I thought.

pfan1981 Fri Feb 21, 2014 07:40am

Had a girl gather, jump off her right foot (pivot foot), and then do a obvious non simultaneous jump stop, more like a "one, two". We called it all night and finally the coach wanted an explanation. Gave him one, didn't like it, to which we replied....."Well that's the rule."


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