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Old Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:46pm
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The Trail official saw the illegal contact on the shooter, looked to see if the Lead was calling the foul, then when clear that the Lead DID NOT SEE IT, came in with a VERY STRONG whistle (which he ABSOLUTELY should in this situation) and sold the call.

I'll be the Lead was glad that Trail came and got that one right.
Not sure what video you were watching but in no way did he wait for lead. He almost immediately hit the whistle with a fist and then repeated put it up and down.

On the BI he came off the endline almost to the 28 foot mark, again repeatedly dropping the it counts signal.

In no way was it rising to the moment, it was all about look at me make this call.
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:23am
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Not sure what video you were watching but in no way did he wait for lead. He almost immediately hit the whistle with a fist and then repeated put it up and down.

On the BI he came off the endline almost to the 28 foot mark, again repeatedly dropping the it counts signal.

In no way was it rising to the moment, it was all about look at me make this call.
Uhh? In Play #1, the Lead has signaled OOB before his fist comes up.

Play #4 stops and he hasn't even crossed the FTLE.

I would say you are the one trying to sell something.
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:47am
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Play #4 stops and he hasn't even crossed the FTLE.
He who, the L? On Play #4 when the violation is committed the L is at the endline and the C is below the FTLE.
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:18pm
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He who, the L? On Play #4 when the violation is committed the L is at the endline and the C is below the FTLE.
Read what BZ posted. I'm responding to his comment about Play #4. He said the Lead ran out to the 28' line signaling BI.
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:42pm
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Read what BZ posted. I'm responding to his comment about Play #4. He said the Lead ran out to the 28' line signaling BI.
He didn't go as far as BZ said but he did run out to near the FTLE by the time the clip stopped. Not sure how much farther he went after the clip. Maybe BZ saw a more complete clip elsewhere.

Regardless of whether it was the FLTE or the 28' mark, he went overboard on the theatrics.
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Old Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:02am
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I agree with all the calls with one caveat. #3 I could go either way on it. From the end line camera I am not sure the offensive player had gathered the ball even though he clearly does after the foul and does not dribble again. I would probably have counted it at game speed but I am ok with the "no shot" ruling by the official after watching the video.

On #1, that is a good cadence whistle and he sells it appropriately. After seeing the leads calling the OOB he immediately hits the whistle, just behind leads call.
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:16pm
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Not sure what video you were watching but in no way did he wait for lead. He almost immediately hit the whistle with a fist and then repeated put it up and down.

On the BI he came off the endline almost to the 28 foot mark, again repeatedly dropping the it counts signal.

In no way was it rising to the moment, it was all about look at me make this call.
watch the video angle from behind the Trail official....he watches the play, sees the contact, looks to his left (actually leans a little bit) to see what the Lead is going to call...AND AFTER THE LEAD SIGNALS THE BALL OUT OF BOUNDS, the Trail comes in with a VERY STRONG whistle.

take another look....it's on the video!
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