btw, can we stop with the criticism of the "showboating/theatrics" by the officials in this game?

This is a high-level game being played in a football stadium in front of 30,000+ people at the most intense part of the game. In each of the calls made in the video, the officials "matched the moment" with their mechanics/strength of calls.....

What you or I do in a high-school/small college gym in front of 100 people "ain't gonna work" here.

I fully agree with this. Make the call match the play.

I also think we're trained to be a little too subdued in HS but that's an argument for another day.

Absolutely. Probably louder than most of us could ever imagine. He was trying to get his partner's attention and let him know he had a foul. I see very little problem with that kind of action in that moment.

Peace

Not sure what video you were watching but in no way did he wait for lead. He almost immediately hit the whistle with a fist and then repeated put it up and down.

On the BI he came off the endline almost to the 28 foot mark, again repeatedly dropping the it counts signal.

In no way was it rising to the moment, it was all about look at me make this call.

Uhh? In Play #1, the Lead has signaled OOB before his fist comes up.

Play #4 stops and he hasn't even crossed the FTLE.

I would say you are the one trying to sell something. ;)

He who, the L? On Play #4 when the violation is committed the L is at the endline and the C is below the FTLE.

watch the video angle from behind the Trail official....he watches the play, sees the contact, looks to his left (actually leans a little bit) to see what the Lead is going to call...AND AFTER THE LEAD SIGNALS THE BALL OUT OF BOUNDS, the Trail comes in with a VERY STRONG whistle.

take another look....it's on the video!

Read what BZ posted. I'm responding to his comment about Play #4. He said the Lead ran out to the 28' line signaling BI.

He didn't go as far as BZ said but he did run out to near the FTLE by the time the clip stopped. Not sure how much farther he went after the clip. Maybe BZ saw a more complete clip elsewhere.

Regardless of whether it was the FLTE or the 28' mark, he went overboard on the theatrics.

I agree with all the calls with one caveat. #3 I could go either way on it. From the end line camera I am not sure the offensive player had gathered the ball even though he clearly does after the foul and does not dribble again. I would probably have counted it at game speed but I am ok with the "no shot" ruling by the official after watching the video.

On #1, that is a good cadence whistle and he sells it appropriately. After seeing the leads calling the OOB he immediately hits the whistle, just behind leads call.

Uh, no.

I believe Syracuse had a foul to give, and were trying to give it. You are saying you would not call this?

In the third play, how much you guys wanna bet the Lead yelled "ON THE FLOOR!!!" while pointing to the ground??

Here's my thing... If the trail saw the illegal contact, why did he not put a whistle on it at the time of the illegal contact? We are not allowed to use the advantage/disadvantage at the NCAA level this year. This is a play where I can see the T having a whistle anyways, so why didn't he come in earlier with the foul?

He wouldn't have had to sell it so hard had he put a whistle on it earlier...

I'm probably no-calling it for the first 30 minutes. I imagine I'd no-call it during the last 10 seconds, also. I'm not taking away a breakaway layup on that bump if the shooter ends up keeping control (like in this play).

If I blew the whistle, I'd regret it.

So has the NCAA completely disregarded the incidental contact rules? A/D is simply a way of wording that. I highly doubt they want every bit of contact called a foul.

While I agree he might not have to have sold it as hard as he did, it is a good cadence whistle since the Lead is primary on the play. He is a split second after he sees Lead calling it OOB. I don't think it was an advantage/disadvantage thing as much as a secondary coverage whistle.