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Rooster Tue Feb 18, 2014 02:22pm

This play reminds me of a big dawg in my association who defaulted to block when he thought the defender was "flopping" in order to "discourage" such behavior. Thankfully he changed that when a bigger dawg called him on it. Interesting to watch that conversation...

JetMetFan Thu Feb 20, 2014 05:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 923471)
The new rule wording really shouldn't have even come into play here.

It does because of A1's upward movement with his hands as he was about to become airborne, at least that's my interpretation of the new guidelines.

walt Thu Feb 20, 2014 06:30am

The new guideline caused this without a doubt. To me, the calling official on the video, when it goes to slow motion, is looking more at the dribbler than seeing the whole play. Again, to me, he is watching for that critical gathering moment. My question would simply be what did the defender do wrong or illegal? This is a charge. Plays like this is why I am glad I work on the women's side.

JetMetFan Thu Feb 20, 2014 08:00am

One other thing I thought of with the NCAAM guidelines (and I'd need an NCAAM official to answer).

*A1 starts a drive from the C's side, gets past B1 and contacts B2 who attains or is trying to attain LGP in the lane on the C's side of the basket. From what I understand for the men, the L is supposed to make the block/PC call in this case. If I'm right about that isn't the call that much more difficult because of the new guideline with the hands/arms rising on the airborne shooter?

Raymond Thu Feb 20, 2014 08:31am

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Originally Posted by jetmetfan (Post 923678)
one other thing i thought of with the ncaam guidelines (and i'd need an ncaam official to answer).

*a1 starts a drive from the c's side, gets past b1 and contacts b2 who attains or is trying to attain lgp in the lane on the c's side of the basket. from what i understand for the men, the l is supposed to make the block/pc call in this case. if i'm right about that isn't the call that much more difficult because of the new guideline with the hands/arms rising on the airborne shooter?

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rockyroad Thu Feb 20, 2014 09:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 923671)
It does because of A1's upward movement with his hands as he was about to become airborne, at least that's my interpretation of the new guidelines.

The defender was there before the upward movement began, and never moved. So the new wording shouldn't really matter.

Camron Rust Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 923694)
The defender was there before the upward movement began, and never moved. So the new wording shouldn't really matter.

In fact, the defender has LGP while the last dribble was bouncing on the floor....long before upward motion began.


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