End of UA/ASU Game (Video)

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

I don't disagree with you. In general why is the T for hanging on the rim not called very much anymore? I've only seen it called once this year and that was an easy call in th Minnesota/Wisconsin game on Thursday night.

This one is hard for me to say it should or should not be a T for hanging on the rim. There are two players under him when he initially hangs on the rim, which rules out the T. My issue is that the area where he can safely come down has cleared out and he is still hanging on the rim. At what point does the safety aspect of the rule (which is a good rule IMO), end and when does the showing off portion of the rule begin?

I agree with not calling a T for the fans storming the court. If the players left the bench area though, prior to the fans storming the court we have a potential issue. If the players left the bench after the fans stormed the court you have an easy argument for not issuing a T for the safety of the players.

I would add this. The Pac 12 should sanction ASU for the fans storming the court. This shouldn't be a game official action, but it should be a post-game situation.

[deecee]

A pull up IS NOT hanging on the rim for safety. It's a PULL UP. That's a T.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

I agree with not calling a T for the fans storming the court. If the players left the bench area though, prior to the fans storming the court we have a potential issue. If the players left the bench after the fans stormed the court you have an easy argument for not issuing a T for the safety of the players.

Watch the play again, ASU players were on the court PRIOR to the player finishing his dribble PRIOR to leaving the floor to dunk the ball.

I understand why the NCAA-M rule states that no T should be issued unless the players entering the floor prevent the opponent from making the ball live after a score. What I don't understand is that if, earlier in the game, a single player runs onto the floor during play (live ball/dead ball) a T would be issued. Why then, is the same T NOT issued at/near end of the gameIf you want to simply adjus the rules in the last 2:00 of the game (ala the NBA), just say so.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

I don't disagree with you. In general why is the T for hanging on the rim not called very much anymore? I've only seen it called once this year and that was an easy call in th Minnesota/Wisconsin game on Thursday night.

Some things are priorities and emphasized a certain way at that level, and some things are not. Consider how many T's you see called for players dunking a dead ball after a whistle, for example, compared to how many times (per game) it happens.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Some things are priorities and emphasized a certain way at that level, and some things are not. Consider how many T's you see called for players dunking a dead ball after a whistle, for example, compared to how many times (per game) it happens.

Given the Ts I've seen called at the D-1 level that have paled in comparison to this chin-up....

Bill Walton was right, though (some of the hardest words I've ever put together). If he just dribbles into the corner, that game is over.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Consider how many T's you see called for players dunking a dead ball after a whistle.

This cost Southern Connecticut State College a win about thirty years ago. A celebratory dunk after the final horn in an apparent win led to a technical foul. I'm a little fuzzy on the rest but either the free throws for the technical gave the other team a victory, or the free throws for the technical foul led to an overtime, that eventually gave the other team a victory.