End of UA/ASU Game (Video)

[twocentsworth]

RE: hanging on the rim with .7 left....I can tell you that John Adams, NCAA National Coordinator of Men's Basketball Officials, is on record as saying "don't split hairs" when it comes to hanging on the rim - if a player (opponent OR teammate) is anywhere close to to said player hanging on the rim, do not call a T. Let the player hang for his safety (or even the safety of the players under the rim).

As for the ENTIRE Arizona St. bench (players, coaches, staff, etc.) running onto the floor with 0.7 left in the game.....AS WELL AS SEVERAL HUNDRED STUDENTS FROM THE STANDS....John Adams has also said that no techs should be issued in this situation. I strongly beg to differ on this one - but then again, John Adams never has nor never will ask for my opinion on this one.......

[paulsonj72]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

RE: hanging on the rim with .7 left....I can tell you that John Adams, NCAA National Coordinator of Men's Basketball Officials, is on record as saying "don't split hairs" when it comes to hanging on the rim - if a player (opponent OR teammate) is anywhere close to to said player hanging on the rim, do not call a T. Let the player hang for his safety (or even the safety of the players under the rim).

As for the ENTIRE Arizona St. bench (players, coaches, staff, etc.) running onto the floor with 0.7 left in the game.....AS WELL AS SEVERAL HUNDRED STUDENTS FROM THE STANDS....John Adams has also said that no techs should be issued in this situation. I strongly beg to differ on this one - but then again, John Adams never has nor never will ask for my opinion on this one.......

On the game broadcast the game officials gave the explination to the on air talent as to why no T was issued for the fans storming the court. This explination was also picked up by microphones and heard on the actual broadcast. So in this case you actually heard directly from an official why no T was given for the crowd storming the court

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

.... I strongly beg to differ on this one - but then again, John Adams never has nor never will ask for my opinion on this one.......

He actually personally answered an email of mine once concerning a play he posted.

[HawkeyeCubP]

MCall explained basically what the relevant AR's state - that no technical fouls should be assessed for the fans storming the court if they don't prevent the ball from becoming live - since they had stopped the game after the dunk to review the time, there you go.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

RE: hanging on the rim with .7 left....I can tell you that John Adams, NCAA National Coordinator of Men's Basketball Officials, is on record as saying "don't split hairs" when it comes to hanging on the rim - if a player (opponent OR teammate) is anywhere close to to said player hanging on the rim, do not call a T. Let the player hang for his safety (or even the safety of the players under the rim).

You would have needed an ax to split the hair in this case. I understand not calling it in this situation, but this chin-up had nothing to do with anyone's safety.

Some of you may be able to browse to the play here: ESPN3 -- Arizona vs. Arizona State

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You would have needed an ax to split the hair in this case. I understand not calling it in this situation, but this chin-up had nothing to do with anyone's safety.

Watch the play again (while holding your axe) to see his own teammate directly underneath him. In the NCAA's view, once a player is remotely near the area where a dunking player would land, let him hang for safety.

[maroonx]

So you can pull yourself up for safety as oppose to just hanging on it? Seems excuses are being made for not calling a T in a heated contest that could determine the outcome of a game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You would have needed an ax to split the hair in this case. I understand not calling it in this situation, but this chin-up had nothing to do with anyone's safety.

I agree. This was not a safety issue. I'm calling that T in my games without any question.

Although, in a high school game, by the time I would have recognized it, the clock would have expired and the game would have been over.