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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 12:17am
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That is what I would have guessed was said, something along those lines.
And if that is the case, still not smart on his part. He has to be better than that.

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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 06:21pm
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And if that is the case, still not smart on his part. He has to be better than that.

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Dont misunderstand me, this is still not an excuse for what he did. Off the court this is grounds for a battery charge, why should it be different in this case?
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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 06:36pm
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Jeff Orr Statement


"I would like to take this opportunity to offer my sincere apologies to Marcus Smart, Oklahoma State, Tubby Smith and the Texas Tech Men's Basketball program. My actions last night were inappropriate and do not reflect myself or Texas Tech - a university I love dearly. I regret calling Mr. Smart a "piece of crap" but I want to make it known that I did not use a racial slur of any kind. Additionally, I would like to offer my apologies to Texas Tech fans that have been embarrassed by the attention this incident has created."


He has also agreed not to attend anymore games for the rest of the year.

Irony---Smarts first game back will be against Texas Tech.

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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 07:41pm
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I don't believe him. He is a liar. Once again another Black player gets Riley Coopered. Now Marcus is gone for 3,games. This guy can still come to games next year. He should be banned for next year. He probably was not going to attend them this year anyway.

From deadspin
We haven't done the total CSI type analysis, but it appears this is what TTech superfan Jeff Orr says to Marcus Smart: "go back to ———".


The guy said a racist slur.
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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 07:47pm
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I don't believe him. He is a liar. Once again another Black player gets Riley Coopered. Now Marcus is gone for 3,games. This guy can still come to games next year. He should be banned for next year. He probably was not going to attend them this year anyway.

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We haven't done the total CSI type analysis, but it appears this is what TTech superfan Jeff Orr says to Marcus Smart: "go back to ———".


The guy said a racist slur.
You have no idea what was said, and there are enough bad lip reading videos out there that I'm skeptical of any "analysis." It was a loud gym, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's telling the truth and Smart just heard it wrong. There were enough people around him, and enough cameras in the vicinity, I would be surprised to find he could get away with a racial slur that close to the court without it being caught.

I'm also guessing the offensive comment was made before the cameras were really on him, judging by his reaction and the body language of both.
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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 07:50pm
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How does one hear a racial slur wrong? I need an example. This has no place in sports one of the few places in life where there is an equal playing field.
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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 08:04pm
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How does one hear a racial slur wrong? I need an example. This has no place in sports one of the few places in life where there is an equal playing field.
Some people expect to hear certain things and will hear them when they are not there.

We have an official that does that (and not in a racial way, he just thinks coaches are challenging him when they're just telling their kids to run a play or telling their kids why they got the foul call).

Or the fact that it was noisy and a lot of people were yelling a lot of things....mix three or four different people together and you can get some odd stuff.
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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 08:25pm
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How does one hear a racial slur wrong? I need an example. This has no place in sports one of the few places in life where there is an equal playing field.
Maroon,

It's called deflection. I screwed up and I'm looking for support. The race card being played when convenient. It's like finding Jesus when convenient.

If a racial slur was thrown, let administration deal with it. There is no excuse for a player going into the stands and assaulting a fan.
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Old Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:13am
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How does one hear a racial slur wrong? I need an example. This has no place in sports one of the few places in life where there is an equal playing field.
Wow, you completely misread what I wrote.

I think it's possible that he called him a piece of sh1t, and Smart heard the word ni****. I frankly don't know. But feel free to assume the worst of someone you don't know because he's a white douchebag.

Again, I have no idea what was said. I assume Smart thought he heard a racial slur. I assume nothing with regard to what the fan actually said.
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Old Mon Feb 10, 2014, 10:06am
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How does one hear a racial slur wrong? I need an example. This has no place in sports one of the few places in life where there is an equal playing field.
- How does anyone hear anything wrong? Guess what happens all the time.
- Who has suggested that there is a place in sports for this? You are assuming that the FAN (probably a jacka$$) used a racial slur.

No one thinks it’s possible he was a little embarrassed about getting posterized on that play?

1. If in fact this guy used some sort of racial epitaph, he should be banned from attending any school activity for a period of time. If this can be verified 100% the court of public opinion will crucify him accordingly.

2. There is an equal chance he said absolutely nothing out of line and just got underneath M. Smart skin at the wrong time. In which case Smart's only possible explanation is he used a racial slur. This wouldn't be the first time someone accused another of a racial slur in order to explain stupid behavior.

I cannot believe for a second that no one else heard this. I don't care how loud it was. Unless you’re saying that everyone in that section is a racist and is covering for this fan. Why is it every time something like this happens between a white person and a black person it's racially motivated? I am not saying it doesn't happen. It absolutely happens; everyday somewhere. Not in the frequency in sports where everything can always be boiled down to race.

Maybe this Fan is just and A-hole. Maybe M. Smart needs to grow up and understand his environment. My guess is that there are plenty of representatives at his home court who are capable of the same stuff.
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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 08:02pm
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I don't believe him. He is a liar. Once again another Black player gets Riley Coopered. Now Marcus is gone for 3,games. This guy can still come to games next year. He should be banned for next year. He probably was not going to attend them this year anyway.

From deadspin
We haven't done the total CSI type analysis, but it appears this is what TTech superfan Jeff Orr says to Marcus Smart: "go back to ———".


The guy said a racist slur.
I don't know what he said. Do you normally guess when making calls? He certainly said something out of line but claiming anything else is just a guess.
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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 08:11pm
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Seriously? You don't know what was said. You don't know who's lying. Quit acting like you're all-knowing.

I don't like the fact that fans are allowed to talk trash and basically be instigators, but that's the way it is. It's up to players, coaches, and others involved with the game to rise above such things. Smart didn't do that, and he's learning the hard way how not to respond to idiots.
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