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[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

In addition, I'm whacking the crowd for this. Some behavior is too extreme to go without penalty.

But whacking the crowd doesn't penalize the crowd, it penalizes the team. I really don't see why this one is in the books, but it does have the disclaimer.

Care should be used not to unfairly penalize the players for the actions of others............ or something like that. Where is that?

[BryanV21]

IMO, cheerleaders are as much a part of the game as the players themselves, and should therefore be respectful. If I heard them yelling "miss it", or whatever, I'd have a chat with the head coach of the school, and tell him/her to get with the cheerleading coach and cut it out.

As for the crowd, they can yelling "miss it" all they want, but when the get racial like in the OP then I'm going to step in and make sure it stops immediately. I wouldn't penalize the team by giving them a tech, though. That doesn't seem right to me.

[Mregor]

I'm not smart enough to make the connection from slurpee to owning a 7-11. I don't think I would have noticed. Am I the only one?

[Rich]

Whack the crowd?

Sorry, no. I'm not a pioneer.

[Nevadaref]

One needs to decide what one stands for in life. This is HS sports in which we open every game by addressing sporting behavior with the coaches and captains.

I really wouldn't feel one bit bad about penalizing a school's team for a racist chant from it's student section. The only thing which would send a stronger message would be to stop and forfeit the contest. That is what is happening in European soccer matches when the crowd gets racial with the players.

Sports is a part of life with one of several purposes being to teach people about how to interact with others. Think about the reason behind having the modern Olympic Games. I have decided to put the principles of character and civil behavior above the competitive aspects of a sporting contest. In the grand scheme, the game and any penalties suffered within it are secondary to the life lessons taken from it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

One needs to decide what one stands for in life. This is HS sports in which we open every game by addressing sporting behavior with the coaches and captains.

I really wouldn't feel one bit bad about penalizing a school's team for a racist chant from it's student section. The only thing which would send a stronger message would be to stop and forfeit the contest. That is what is happening in European soccer matches when the crowd gets racial with the players.

Sports is a part of life with one of several purposes being to teach people about how to interact with others. Think about the reason behind having the modern Olympic Games. I have decided to put the principles of character and civil behavior above the competitive aspects of a sporting contest. In the grand scheme, the game and any penalties suffered within it are secondary to the life lessons taken from it.

If your state or your association makes this decision, fine.

If you're making this decision on your own, you're a loose cannon.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by Rich

If your state or your association makes this decision, fine.

If you're making this decision on your own, you're a loose cannon.

You are in good company Nevada: Martin Luther, Benjamin Franklin, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, Rosa Parks, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by Rich

If your state or your association makes this decision, fine.

If you're making this decision on your own, you're a loose cannon.

Nevada,

A lot of people over time have been discouraged from acting or speaking-up for good and just causes. I encourage you to continue.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

One needs to decide what one stands for in life. This is HS sports in which we open every game by addressing sporting behavior with the coaches and captains.

I really wouldn't feel one bit bad about penalizing a school's team for a racist chant from it's student section. The only thing which would send a stronger message would be to stop and forfeit the contest. That is what is happening in European soccer matches when the crowd gets racial with the players.

Sports is a part of life with one of several purposes being to teach people about how to interact with others. Think about the reason behind having the modern Olympic Games. I have decided to put the principles of character and civil behavior above the competitive aspects of a sporting contest. In the grand scheme, the game and any penalties suffered within it are secondary to the life lessons taken from it.

Yeah, this is the message I want to send, all right. You shall be punished for the actions of others over whom you have no control.

[KCRC]

Originally Posted by Mregor

I'm not smart enough to make the connection from slurpee to owning a 7-11. I don't think I would have noticed. Am I the only one?

You are not the only one. Someone would have had to explain this to me.

[UMP45]

Sounds like future Duke students!

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by UMP45

Sounds like future Duke students!

Sounds like future ____fill in the blank________ students!

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

IMO, cheerleaders are as much a part of the game as the players themselves, and should therefore be respectful. If I heard them yelling "miss it", or whatever, I'd have a chat with the head coach of the school, and tell him/her to get with the cheerleading coach and cut it out.

As for the crowd, they can yelling "miss it" all they want, but when the get racial like in the OP then I'm going to step in and make sure it stops immediately. I wouldn't penalize the team by giving them a tech, though. That doesn't seem right to me.

I'm on the opposite side. Cheerleaders are just fans that are permitted to stand near the court for some reason. Aside from trying not to run into them, I really don't pay any attention to them.

I wouldn't bother with a T either. Just clear that part of the gym.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I'm on the opposite side. Cheerleaders are just fans that are permitted to stand near the court for some reason. Aside from trying not to run into them, I really don't pay any attention to them.

I wouldn't bother with a T either. Just clear that part of the gym.

Exactly my opinion...cheerleaders are fans with a special access pass to be near/on the court at certain times.

And no way I'm giving a T here...you've already punished the offenders enough by embarrassing said individuals as they take the "walk of shame." Plus they don't get to see the rest of the game (I would venture a guess that they are there because they want to see the game). Giving a T here is making a pioneer call.