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Old Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:50pm
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Since I'm bundled up nicely in a blanket, while the polar vortex takes its toll on me, instead of going to the rule book I'm just going to ask.

I suppose my laziness is also part of the reason I'm not looking it up myself, but I digress.

Is it correct to say that the player may have FC status, since he/she jumped from the FC, but the ball didn't? For that reason you can't have a BC violation?

So in order for a BC violation to occur, the player that catches the ball would first have to pivot and put both feet on the floor in the FC. Then he/she would have to touch the division line or put a foot into the BC.

Unless he/she started dribbling while straddling the division line, in which case all three points (both feet and the ball) would have to touch the FC. Then, any of the three points would have to touch the division line or BC to violate.

Did I get it, while at the same time staying warm?
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:11am
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Since I'm bundled up nicely in a blanket, while the polar vortex takes its toll on me, instead of going to the rule book I'm just going to ask.

I suppose my laziness is also part of the reason I'm not looking it up myself, but I digress.

Is it correct to say that the player may have FC status, since he/she jumped from the FC, but the ball didn't? For that reason you can't have a BC violation?

So in order for a BC violation to occur, the player that catches the ball would first have to pivot and put both feet on the floor in the FC. Then he/she would have to touch the division line or put a foot into the BC.

Unless he/she started dribbling while straddling the division line, in which case all three points (both feet and the ball) would have to touch the FC. Then, any of the three points would have to touch the division line or BC to violate.

Did I get it, while at the same time staying warm?
Take a look at NF Case Book 4.4.1 : If a player catches the ball with both feet on the floor, one in the frontcourt and one in the bacvkcourt, and then lifts the foot that is in the backcourt, and then puts it back on the floor in the backcourt, it is a backcourt violation.
The would apply in any case in which the ball is legally held by the player, and his/her feet are straddling the division line.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 08:52am
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Is it correct to say that the player may have FC status, since he/she jumped from the FC, but the ball didn't? For that reason you can't have a BC violation?

So in order for a BC violation to occur, the player that catches the ball would first have to pivot and put both feet on the floor in the FC. Then he/she would have to touch the division line or put a foot into the BC.
Those two paragraphs are incorrect.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:39am
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Bob is right.
The reasons which the two statements are incorrect are:
1. By rule, the airborne player has frontcourt status since that is where he last contacted the court. When this player touches the ball, it now also has frontcourt status. If this player catches the ball and then touches the backcourt when landing, the ONLY reason that this action isn't a violation is because 9-3-3 specifically makes an exception for it.

2. A player HOLDING the ball doesn't have to put both feet into the frontcourt to have FC status and make the ball also have FC status. The player need merely be touching the frontcourt and NOT touching the backcourt. Thus one foot in the FC and the other in the air is sufficient. See the rules on player location and ball location. As you note elsewhere in your post, it is different for a dribbler.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:42am
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Bob is right.
The reasons which the two statements are incorrect are:
1. By rule, the airborne player has frontcourt status since that is where he last contacted the court. When this player touches the ball, it now also has frontcourt status. If this player catches the ball and then touches the backcourt when landing, the ONLY reason that this action isn't a violation is because 9-3-3 specifically makes an exception for it.

2. A player HOLDING the ball doesn't have to put both feet into the frontcourt to have FC status and make the ball also have FC status. The player need merely be touching the frontcourt and NOT touching the backcourt. Thus one foot in the FC and the other in the air is sufficient. See the rules on player location and ball location. As you note elsewhere in your post, it is different for a dribbler.
Gotcha. Thanks, guys.

When it comes to some rules it's better if I talk to other officials. The rule book can sometimes be tough for me to understand, so getting it "in English" is better.

Hey... I almost got it.
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