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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 07:05am
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Visiting team is wearing blue jerseys. They play poorly during the first half and in order to change their luck they decide to switch to red jerseys for the 2nd half.
Good example. Even the numbers can be changed after reporting the change to the scorer, and an official.

If the numbers can be changed, then why not the color of jerseys, headbands, wristbands, etc.
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The rule doesn't mention timing, just that "the same color must be worn by teammates." So if A1 wears a blue headband in the first half and A2 wears a white headband in the second half, then we have teammates that are wearing different colored headbands, and so are in violation of the rule. Does that fly?
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 08:50am
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The rule doesn't mention timing, just that "the same color must be worn by teammates." So if A1 wears a blue headband in the first half and A2 wears a white headband in the second half, then we have teammates that are wearing different colored headbands, and so are in violation of the rule. Does that fly?
In the 2012-2013 book, the rule states "participants" not "teammates."

I view "participants" as being the equivalent of "players."
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In the 2012-2013 book, the rule states "participants" not "teammates."

I view "participants" as being the equivalent of "players."
I was quoting the NCAAW book, since that's what we use here in NYS for girl's basketball.

Is there a definition of "participant" in the NFHS rulebook?
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 09:08am
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I was quoting the NCAAW book, since that's what we use here in NYS for girl's basketball.

Is there a definition of "participant" in the NFHS rulebook?
"Participant" is not defined , but there are several cases where a team member has illegal equipment (e.g., jewelry) and the ruling is to the effect of "there is no T; A1 simply cannot participate until the illegal item is removed."
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:03pm
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I view "participants" as being the equivalent of "players."
I may be wrong, but I don't agree with bob jenkins, in regard to the statement above, at this point in the thread, although I reserve the right to change my mind after some future postings. That would mean that only the five players "participating" must have legal equipment. The kids on the bench could have illegal undershirts, illegal jewelry, illegal headbands, etc. and they only have to "made" legal when they report to the table as a substitute. Since there are no players during the pregame layup lines, then everyone could conceivably be wearing illegal equipment.

I know that I'm on thin ice here, i.e., disagreeing with bob jenkins, but, like I said, I can be easily convinced that bob jenkins is correct.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 05:55pm
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I may be wrong, but I don't agree with bob jenkins, in regard to the statement above, at this point in the thread, although I reserve the right to change my mind after some future postings. That would mean that only the five players "participating" must have legal equipment. The kids on the bench could have illegal undershirts, illegal jewelry, illegal headbands, etc. and they only have to "made" legal when they report to the table as a substitute. Since there are no players during the pregame layup lines, then everyone could conceivably be wearing illegal equipment.

I know that I'm on thin ice here, i.e., disagreeing with bob jenkins, but, like I said, I can be easily convinced that bob jenkins is correct.
When on the court the team members must be legally equipped and that pertains to warm-ups as well per a Case Book play. However, Bob is right that a team member who just sits on the bench the whole game doesn't have to comply. For example, he/she could wear earrings and not participate.
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When on the court the team members must be legally equipped and that pertains to warm-ups as well per a Case Book play. However, Bob is right that a team member who just sits on the bench the whole game doesn't have to comply. For example, he/she could wear earrings and not participate.
Well, at least I was right about the layup lines.

It's true, always listen to bob.
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Good example. Even the numbers can be changed after reporting the change to the scorer, and an official.
Not without a T or an approved reason (blood, etc).
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