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[Nevadaref]

I'd allow the team to switch colors because there is no rule against it.

Let me push the issue further. Visiting team is wearing blue jerseys. They play poorly during the first half and in order to change their luck they decide to switch to red jerseys for the 2nd half.

Any rule prohibiting the entire team from changing? All numbers match the previous jerseys.

[JugglingReferee]

Let them change once for the reasons cited by others.

If they want to switch back, deny it based on the issue that now the doors are open to change multiple times per game, which I'm certain the Fed doesn't want to have happen. It's just not part of basketball.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Let them change once for the reasons cited by others.

If they want to switch back, deny it based on the issue that now the doors are open to change multiple times per game, which I'm certain the Fed doesn't want to have happen. It's just not part of basketball.

That doesn't make sense. You can't arbitrarily decide that they may change only once when that isn't in the book. Either they can change colors because they rules allow it or they can't because the rules prohibit it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That doesn't make sense. You can't arbitrarily decide that they may change only once when that isn't in the book. Either they can change colors because they rules allow it or they can't because the rules prohibit it.

Agreed. I don't see any rules against it.

Now, they'd all have to change at the same time, and the team isn't going to be allowed to go to the lockerroom once the 2nd half starts anyway.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Visiting team is wearing blue jerseys. They play poorly during the first half and in order to change their luck they decide to switch to red jerseys for the 2nd half.

Good example. Even the numbers can be changed after reporting the change to the scorer, and an official.

If the numbers can be changed, then why not the color of jerseys, headbands, wristbands, etc.

[Lotto]

The rule doesn't mention timing, just that "the same color must be worn by teammates." So if A1 wears a blue headband in the first half and A2 wears a white headband in the second half, then we have teammates that are wearing different colored headbands, and so are in violation of the rule. Does that fly?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Lotto

The rule doesn't mention timing, just that "the same color must be worn by teammates." So if A1 wears a blue headband in the first half and A2 wears a white headband in the second half, then we have teammates that are wearing different colored headbands, and so are in violation of the rule. Does that fly?

In the 2012-2013 book, the rule states "participants" not "teammates."

I view "participants" as being the equivalent of "players."

[Lotto]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

In the 2012-2013 book, the rule states "participants" not "teammates."

I view "participants" as being the equivalent of "players."

I was quoting the NCAAW book, since that's what we use here in NYS for girl's basketball.

Is there a definition of "participant" in the NFHS rulebook?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Lotto

I was quoting the NCAAW book, since that's what we use here in NYS for girl's basketball.

Is there a definition of "participant" in the NFHS rulebook?

"Participant" is not defined , but there are several cases where a team member has illegal equipment (e.g., jewelry) and the ruling is to the effect of "there is no T; A1 simply cannot participate until the illegal item is removed."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jerkins

I view "participants" as being the equivalent of "players."

I may be wrong, but I don't agree with bob jenkins, in regard to the statement above, at this point in the thread, although I reserve the right to change my mind after some future postings. That would mean that only the five players "participating" must have legal equipment. The kids on the bench could have illegal undershirts, illegal jewelry, illegal headbands, etc. and they only have to "made" legal when they report to the table as a substitute. Since there are no players during the pregame layup lines, then everyone could conceivably be wearing illegal equipment.

I know that I'm on thin ice here, i.e., disagreeing with bob jenkins, but, like I said, I can be easily convinced that bob jenkins is correct.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I may be wrong, but I don't agree with bob jenkins, in regard to the statement above, at this point in the thread, although I reserve the right to change my mind after some future postings. That would mean that only the five players "participating" must have legal equipment. The kids on the bench could have illegal undershirts, illegal jewelry, illegal headbands, etc. and they only have to "made" legal when they report to the table as a substitute. Since there are no players during the pregame layup lines, then everyone could conceivably be wearing illegal equipment.

I know that I'm on thin ice here, i.e., disagreeing with bob jenkins, but, like I said, I can be easily convinced that bob jenkins is correct.

When on the court the team members must be legally equipped and that pertains to warm-ups as well per a Case Book play. However, Bob is right that a team member who just sits on the bench the whole game doesn't have to comply. For example, he/she could wear earrings and not participate.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

When on the court the team members must be legally equipped and that pertains to warm-ups as well per a Case Book play. However, Bob is right that a team member who just sits on the bench the whole game doesn't have to comply. For example, he/she could wear earrings and not participate.

Well, at least I was right about the layup lines.

It's true, always listen to bob.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Good example. Even the numbers can be changed after reporting the change to the scorer, and an official.

Not without a T or an approved reason (blood, etc).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I'd allow the team to switch colors because there is no rule against it.

Let me push the issue further. Visiting team is wearing blue jerseys. They play poorly during the first half and in order to change their luck they decide to switch to red jerseys for the 2nd half.

Any rule prohibiting the entire team from changing? All numbers match the previous jerseys.

Let me add this wrinkle:
V has two distinct sets of players that play together. A1-A7 all wear red jerseys. A8-A15 all wear blue jerseys. Red only plays with red teammates, and the same with blue.

Allowed?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

Let me add this wrinkle:
V has two distinct sets of players that play together. A1-A7 all wear red jerseys. A8-A15 all wear blue jerseys. Red only plays with red teammates, and the same with blue.

Allowed?

I'm not....at least at V or higher. MS or rec level, sure, just about anything goes as long as we can easily tell the two teams on the floor apart.