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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:25am
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Definitely a foul.

Definitely not a shooting foul.

Definitely a T in HS, even if a foul was called. I gotta think the same is true in NCAA. I know in FIBA it would be.

Definitely a 2nd T. Times like this I think about something called a "continuing action T foul". He dissatisfaction is all in one action. I would support a rule change where the 1st T is upgraded to a flagrant for the continued harassment.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:42am
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I would support a rule change where the 1st T is upgraded to a flagrant for the continued harassment.
Frankly, I prefer the option we have, where the continued harassment gets a second technical foul and the accompanying free throws.

I also find it pathetic that a D-1 coach has to be restrained by his 20-ish year old players.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:15pm
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I think he only got one T on that play. I believe he had gotten a T earlier in the game. At least that's the way I heard it on ESPN.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:21pm
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I think he only got one T on that play. I believe he had gotten a T earlier in the game. At least that's the way I heard it on ESPN.
No, he got a technical from the L on the end line (and the T was coming in with one, too) and then got the second after shouting what appears to be an F-bomb at the L as he was going to the table to report the T.

The offensive player got fouled, but his embellishment of the foul was unnecessary and made it look a lot worse than it was.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 03:39pm
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No, he got a technical from the L on the end line (and the T was coming in with one, too) and then got the second after shouting what appears to be an F-bomb at the L as he was going to the table to report the T.

The offensive player got fouled, but his embellishment of the foul was unnecessary and made it look a lot worse than it was.
Ok. They made it sound like he only got one there.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:22pm
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I think he only got one T on that play. I believe he had gotten a T earlier in the game. At least that's the way I heard it on ESPN.
Both the Lead and the Trail whistled a T when Ollie did his 28ft sprint down the sideline to the end line. Then Ollie directed an F-bomb ("call the F'ing foul") at the Lead (Stuart) who issued the 2nd T and ejection.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:43pm
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A missed call. It happens.

If a person acts like that anywhere but a sporting event and the cops get called. Yet the talking heads blame the official.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 04:41pm
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Maybe the Lead takes a peek at a shooter in the corner. I can't see this Lead looking at that play on the wing.

This is Trail's call, and where is he? Looks to be at halfcourt. In fact he isn't even in the frame until he sprints in to join the T party. If the Trail had showed the same amount of dedication to getting the call right as rushing in to call the T, this never would have happened.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 06:40pm
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Maybe the Lead takes a peek at a shooter in the corner. I can't see this Lead looking at that play on the wing.

This is Trail's call, and where is he? Looks to be at halfcourt. In fact he isn't even in the frame until he sprints in to join the T party. If the Trail had showed the same amount of dedication to getting the call right as rushing in to call the T, this never would have happened.
I agree that this is the trail's call, but I'm not going to call into question Brian O'Connell's dedication. He's been a high quality DI official for a long time. That being said....

According to statsheet.com O'Connell worked two games yesterday!!! Statsheet has him in DC working the Seton Hall v. Georgetown game yesterday and then getting himself to Storrs, CT to work the 9pm game. I know he's an independent contractor and that he has the right to do this, but is he doing the second game a disservice? I think that working two high level games within 9 hours of each other and traveling 366 miles is asking a lot of anyone's body and mind.

I don't know if this was why O'Connell was so far away from the play in question, but it certainly could be a reason why.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 06:46pm
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According to statsheet.com O'Connell worked two games yesterday!!! Statsheet has him in DC working the Seton Hall v. Georgetown game yesterday and then getting himself to Storrs, CT to work the 9pm game. I know he's an independent contractor and that he has the right to do this, but is he doing the second game a disservice? I think that working two high level games within 9 hours of each other and traveling 366 miles is asking a lot of anyone's body and mind.
The box score of the Seton Hall-Georgetown game does in fact show O'Connell as one of the officials. The AAC and the Big East share staffs (obviously, since they used to be the same conference) but yeah, it seems very strange.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 04:26pm
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I think he only got one T on that play. I believe he had gotten a T earlier in the game. At least that's the way I heard it on ESPN.
ESPN play by play tracking shows both T's given at 13:02.
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