Team Leaves Court

[PG_Ref]

Casebook play:

10.5.5 SITUATION A:

Airborne shooter A1 is fouled by B1 after the ball is released on the try. Playing time for the second quarter expires while the unsuccessful try is in flight. Since no players are required to line up for the free throws, Team B's head coach takes the team to the locker room to begin the intermission.

RULING: Team B's head coach is assessed a direct technical foul for permitting team members to leave the bench/court for an unauthorized reason. Even though no time remains on the game clock, the quarter doesn't end until A1's free throws are completed; therefore, the technical foul is part of the second quarter. A1 will attempt the two shooting-foul free throws followed by any Team A member attempting the two free throws for the technical foul. The Team B head coach has lost coaching-box privileges for the remainder of the game. The third quarter will begin with the alternating-possession procedure. (5-6-2 Exception 3)

[deecee]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

Casebook play:

10.5.5 SITUATION A:

Airborne shooter A1 is fouled by B1 after the ball is released on the try. Playing time for the second quarter expires while the unsuccessful try is in flight. Since no players are required to line up for the free throws, Team B's head coach takes the team to the locker room to begin the intermission.

RULING: Team B's head coach is assessed a direct technical foul for permitting team members to leave the bench/court for an unauthorized reason. Even though no time remains on the game clock, the quarter doesn't end until A1's free throws are completed; therefore, the technical foul is part of the second quarter. A1 will attempt the two shooting-foul free throws followed by any Team A member attempting the two free throws for the technical foul. The Team B head coach has lost coaching-box privileges for the remainder of the game. The third quarter will begin with the alternating-possession procedure. (5-6-2 Exception 3)

I hope before this is done an attempt is made to bring the team back to their bench, or at the least get the coach's attention and request him and his team to stay put.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by deecee

I hope before this is done an attempt is made to bring the team back to their bench

Why?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Why?

Because it's 1) good game management and/or 2) a reasonable thing to do.

What's so tough about "tweet, tweet. blue stay on your bench until we are done?"

We say plenty of times here that coaches don't know the rules and yet at the same time don't want to work with them at times. Can't have it both ways. But if you want to let it go and hit the T right away, you are supported by the rule. I personally wouldn't.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by deecee

Because it's 1) good game management and/or 2) a reasonable thing to do.

What's so tough about "tweet, tweet. blue stay on your bench until we are done?"

We say plenty of times here that coaches don't know the rules and yet at the same time don't want to work with them at times. Can't have it both ways. But if you want to let it go and hit the T right away, you are supported by the rule. I personally wouldn't.

Agreed. Had this happen at a holiday tournament. we stopped the team when they tried to leave and then shot the FTs.

[Adam]

I'll attempt to get them back, but once they've left the confines, you're stuck calling the T.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by deecee

Because it's 1) good game management and/or 2) a reasonable thing to do.

What's so tough about "tweet, tweet. blue stay on your bench until we are done?"

We say plenty of times here that coaches don't know the rules and yet at the same time don't want to work with them at times. Can't have it both ways. But if you want to let it go and hit the T right away, you are supported by the rule. I personally wouldn't.

I didn't question (or disagree with) the preventative 2nd half of your statement - I'm in agreement with you on that part.

I fully disagree with just the first half - the part I quoted. If you have to bring them back to the bench, they've already violated.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

I didn't question (or disagree with) the preventative 2nd half of your statement - I'm in agreement with you on that part.

I fully disagree with just the first half - the part I quoted. If you have to bring them back to the bench, they've already violated.

They have left their bench and are walking to the locker room, within the playing confines still. You would T here?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by deecee

They have left their bench and are walking to the locker room, within the playing confines still. You would T here?

Yes. A quarter is still in progress and you have a team outside the bench area. Simply apply the rule.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by deecee

They have left their bench and are walking to the locker room, within the playing confines still. You would T here?

What does the rule say? I can't find the term "playing confines".

I'm not saying I wouldn't try to prevent them from leaving if they appeared they were about to leave.

But if they've left, they've left.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

I didn't question (or disagree with) the preventative 2nd half of your statement - I'm in agreement with you on that part.

I fully disagree with just the first half - the part I quoted. If you have to bring them back to the bench, they've already violated.

Depends on by how much (and I guess how many) they've left.

In our play, maybe two coaches and two team members had reached the scorer's table. The rest were probably still in the bench area.

I agree that if you have to chase them down a hallway, it's too late.

And, preentive officiating can be to look for them to (attempt to) leave and then stop it -- both of my patners were all over this.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

And, preentive officiating can be to look for them to (attempt to) leave and then stop it -- both of my patners were all over this.

Agreed. Knowing the situation, and that some coaches will want to head to the locker room at this point, helps. Head it off.