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Old Fri Jan 03, 2014, 12:48pm
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To each their own. I'll just say that you're safer calling them players. I know for a fact that they are all players...
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Old Fri Jan 03, 2014, 01:58pm
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To each their own. I'll just say that you're safer calling them players. I know for a fact that they are all players...
Maybe, but I think calling them "players" is both condescending and offensive; so you may not be safer either.
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Old Fri Jan 03, 2014, 02:28pm
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Old Fri Jan 03, 2014, 10:56pm
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Maybe, but I think calling them "players" is both condescending and offensive; so you may not be safer either.
Though I'm originally from CA, and am a 40 year transplant to the Centennial State, I've found that "y'all" works pretty well for both genders...
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Old Fri Jan 03, 2014, 11:37pm
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Maybe, but I think calling them "players" is both condescending and offensive; so you may not be safer either.
I have a hard time wrapping my head around them being called players as condescending or offensive... Isn't that exactly what they are?

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A player is one of five or fewer members of a team’s personnel who is legally on the playing court to participate. An individual shall retain player status during a timeout.
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Old Fri Jan 03, 2014, 11:45pm
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I have a hard time wrapping my head around them being called players as condescending or offensive... Isn't that exactly what they are?
They're also ladies, but that's apparently offensive.
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Old Fri Jan 03, 2014, 11:53pm
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They're also ladies, but that's apparently offensive.
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n. pl. la·dies
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a. A woman regarded as proper and virtuous.
b. A well-behaved young girl.
3. A woman who is the head of a household.
4. A woman, especially when spoken of or to in a polite way.
If you think every female on the basketball court is a lady, you don't referee enough women's games!

This is all in fun here, but I'm sticking to my guns that you're safer calling them players. I never said that calling them ladies was offensive either...
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Old Sat Jan 04, 2014, 12:41am
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If you think every female on the basketball court is a lady, you don't referee enough women's games!

This is all in fun here, but I'm sticking to my guns that you're safer calling them players. I never said that calling them ladies was offensive either...

I've heard others say not to call them ladies. Frankly, I just think it's too much worrying about nothing. I'm going to continue doing what I do.

"Players" comes across as awkward for me, which is worst than being offensive with the word "ladies".

It strikes me that "lady" can be offensive if used that way, as in "Hey lady! Watch it!" I've never known "ladies" to be actually be considered offensive by anyone but easily offended observers.

I may just go with shavano's "y'all"
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Old Sat Jan 04, 2014, 01:03am
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I've never known "ladies" to be actually be considered offensive by anyone but easily offended observers.

I may just go with shavano's "y'all"
In the northeast corner, "y'all" will get you far more strange looks than "ladies." I see nothing offensive about "ladies" or "gentlemen." The last I checked, they're terms of respect.
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Old Sat Jan 04, 2014, 10:06am
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They're also ladies, but that's apparently offensive.
I swear, this sounds like it's born from the idea that calling them ladies is somehow a slight to them as basketball players. I call the boys "gentlemen" and nobody would ever bat an eye at that. OK, maybe someone did (above).

In our world, it's no different than how the term "3-man" ended up being 3-person or, laughingly, "3-whistle" even when we clearly included both male and female officials in the discussion.

Those easily offended will find a way to succeed no matter what you do, I suppose.
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