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BigT Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:16pm

Where are newer college officials needed?
 
I know a couple of very young officials who are extremely good college officials. Where they are at there there are few colleges and there are plenty of officials with just a few extra years of experience and they are getting very few games. My gut tells me that other parts of the county there maybe more schools then there are talented college officials. If you were young had 2-3 years of college experience but are not getting many games and you could uproot and move where would you tell these guys to go and how would you get in front of those conference arbiters to be given a shot?

Thanks in advance!

PS Here there are only about 6-7 colleges within a hour. In one part of the country there are 500% more colleges within a hour.

bob jenkins Tue Dec 31, 2013 01:12pm

What level college?

Matt S. Tue Dec 31, 2013 01:29pm

New England
 
I just relocated to New England this year. Picked up 13 D-3 games along with a decent high school slate. All of my games are within 50 miles of my house.

Bear in mind I have been working for 15 years, only two years college...but I moved from a smaller, Midwestern city that also only had a couple of colleges within an hour's drive.

Also, do they work men's or women's? And just because they're 'good' in one area doesn't mean they are 'good' in another. I've worked in seven different states over those 15 years...trust me, officiating proficiency is all relative.

BigT Tue Dec 31, 2013 02:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 916412)
What level college?

Mostly Juco and one got a Div 1 game this year.

These young kids in their early to late 20's have only refereed a few years but are doing serious varsity and have been picked up quickly for Juco.

Anyone know much about California or KY area for need of newer college officials?

Raymond Tue Dec 31, 2013 08:48pm

North Carolina is a good place for young officials.

Anywhere from DC to Boston will put you in the middle of a lot of conferences.

BigT Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:01am

Thanks BadNews.

Nevadaref Wed Jan 01, 2014 04:42pm

CA has so many schools to cover that they are willing to take anyone who shows an interest and is a reasonable official. I know of two refs who are currently working JC games at the age of 21. I know of two other situations in which refs got picked up for JC before even getting promoted to varsity games in their HS chapters.

SCalScoreKeeper Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:45am

Nevada-which HS units do the officials belong to who are doing JUCO before HS varsity?

chseagle Thu Jan 02, 2014 01:16am

Here in my neck of the woods, there's about 6-7 Colleges/universities within 3 hours of one another, plus 5 JUCOs within the same radius.

Unsure how many high schools as there's that many.

Raymond Thu Jan 02, 2014 08:16am

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 916587)
Nevada-which HS units do the officials belong to who are doing JUCO before HS varsity?

That can happen anywhere. I had a buddy who was pick up in D3 after one year of HS ball.

BigT Thu Jan 02, 2014 09:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 916564)
CA has so many schools to cover that they are willing to take anyone who shows an interest and is a reasonable official. I know of two refs who are currently working JC games at the age of 21. I know of two other situations in which refs got picked up for JC before even getting promoted to varsity games in their HS chapters.

Thanks Nevadaref

BigT Thu Jan 02, 2014 09:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 916589)
Here in my neck of the woods, there's about 6-7 Colleges/universities within 3 hours of one another, plus 5 JUCOs within the same radius.

Unsure how many high schools as there's that many.

Do they need college officials?

Raymond Thu Jan 02, 2014 09:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigT (Post 916605)
Do they need college officials?

chseagle is a high school scorekeeper, he wouldn't know.

And what do you mean by "do they need college officials"? If they are part of a conference is very, very, very likely that the conference has a supervisor of officials who hires refs for the league.

Usually it's only those small, independent non-NCAA, non-NAIA schools that self-hire officials just for their own games.

Bottomline though, is if these guys are good (and I'm not doubting they are), they need to get out to some camps outside of Utah, and they will be noticed and start getting on conference supervisors' radars.

chseagle Thu Jan 02, 2014 01:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 916607)
chseagle is a high school scorekeeper, he wouldn't know.

And what do you mean by "do they need college officials"? If they are part of a conference is very, very, very likely that the conference has a supervisor of officials who hires refs for the league.

Usually it's only those small, independent non-NCAA, non-NAIA schools that self-hire officials just for their own games.

Bottomline though, is if these guys are good (and I'm not doubting they are), they need to get out to some camps outside of Utah, and they will be noticed and start getting on conference supervisors' radars.

There's almost always likely a need to hire new officials as the veterans retire.

Just because I'm not truly wearing stripes, doesn't mean the information I provide is any less knowledgeable.

Raymond Thu Jan 02, 2014 02:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 916639)
There's almost always likely a need to hire new officials as the veterans retire.

Just because I'm not truly wearing stripes, doesn't mean the information I provide is any less knowledgeable.

In this case you would not have any knowledge of the situation. Veteran officials retire all the time, all over the country, including where BigT lives.

Are you saying you are privy to the college basketball officiating scene? Do you know any college conference supervisors?


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