Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 916607)

chseagle is a high school scorekeeper, he wouldn't know.

And what do you mean by "do they need college officials"? If they are part of a conference is very, very, very likely that the conference has a supervisor of officials who hires refs for the league.

Usually it's only those small, independent non-NCAA, non-NAIA schools that self-hire officials just for their own games.

Bottomline though, is if these guys are good (and I'm not doubting they are), they need to get out to some camps outside of Utah, and they will be noticed and start getting on conference supervisors' radars.

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 916589)

Here in my neck of the woods, there's about 6-7 Colleges/universities within 3 hours of one another, plus 5 JUCOs within the same radius.

Unsure how many high schools as there's that many.

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 916676)

Since the supervisors of the conferences that those colleges are in (including the juco ones) already have officials from Utah on their rosters, and Big T says these young guns have been to camps and are getting known...my guess would be that the supervisors out here already know who these people from Utah are.

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 916589)

Here in my neck of the woods, there's about 6-7 Colleges/universities within 3 hours of one another, plus 5 JUCOs within the same radius.

Unsure how many high schools as there's that many.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 916607)

chseagle is a high school scorekeeper, he wouldn't know.

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 916639)

Just because I'm not truly wearing stripes, doesn't mean the information I provide is any less knowledgeable.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 916647)

Are you saying you are privy to the college basketball officiating scene? Do you know any college conference supervisors?

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 916685)

The numbers I listed are just from memory & distance estimations.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 916695)

chseagle, you have to understand, we officials do stuff away from the games you see in order to advance our careers. Those schools in your area, do you know the supervisors to contact, or when/where the camps are? That's info BigT would need.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 916695)

My caveat would be not uproot their lives to chase officiating jobs. The opportunities will come.

chseagle, you have to understand, we officials do stuff away from the games you see in order to advance our careers. Those schools in your area, do you know the supervisors to contact, or when/where the camps are? That's info BigT would need.

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 916697)

I think he knows how many colleges and high schools are in his area. That is information that was asked for in the OP.

He doesn't have to be an official in order to give info of the number of colleges and high schools in his area.

Not necessarily. Big T asked for info on which parts of the country have high densities of colleges. Despite being just a scorekeeper, I think that is information chseagle is certainly qualified to provide. Telling him he "has to understand" is just patronizing.

Originally Posted by ocreferee (Post 916752)

BigT-

From what I have gathered in listening to guys who have wanted to chase the idea of officiating as a full time job (NBA guys especially) they should consider moving somewhere where there is quality year round baskeetball. In his court club interview Monty McCutchen talks about moving from Texas to Los Angeles in order to pursue both school (a Masters at UCLA) and basketball (eventually in CBA and then the NBA). This year's two new NBA hires (Ben Taylor and Steve Anderson) both live in Orlando. Ben moved to Orlando after completing college in Tennessee. I have heard that a couple of other NBA guys have lived in Atlanta for a time as young officials in order to be in a "hot bed" area.

Hope this helps.
Chris

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 916759)

Right now, North Carolina and Virginia seem to be hotbeds for the D-League. NC has Joe Forte supervisiong a D1(Big South) & D2 (Carolinas) conference. Virginia is home to George Tolliver and Donnie Vaden.

I believe Dr. Jake Bell likes guys who have NBA aspirations; he supervises the SEC and the A-Sun, which fits in with the Atlanta/Orlando locations. Dr. Bell is close with JB Caldwell, who supervises a few lower division conferences (DII Gulf Sun&Sunshine State) in Florida. Atlanta is a holdover from the days of John Guthrie being a college supervisor. He was a really close friend of Ronnie Nunn, from what I understand. A high number of NBA officials went through Guthrie's conferences before becoming NBA officials.

Also, the Philly area seems to be heating up. I noticed a few newer officials from that area on the D-League roster. Joey Crawford has an instructional camp which uses only NBA refs for observers.

Originally Posted by Andy (Post 916658)

As has been mentioned...Southern California.

Many, many, JUCO, D3, D2, NAIA, etc schools in the area.
However, there are also a lot of officials trying to move up through the ranks so the competiton for those spots on conference rosters is going to be tougher.

I have also heard that there are many areas in the midwest with several small colleges in close proximity that may fit what your associates are looking for.

Originally Posted by KJUmp (Post 916720)

BigT.....

Go to the site PhillyRef.com

Use the Tabs on top of the homepage. Tons of current information on college coordinators and conferences..... both NCAAM & NCAAW. DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, and JUCO. All conference member school info. cross referenced by state.

There's a national listing of over 250 officiating camps.....many geared specifically for officials looking to move into or up the collegiate ranks.

Originally Posted by ocreferee (Post 916752)

BigT-

From what I have gathered in listening to guys who have wanted to chase the idea of officiating as a full time job (NBA guys especially) they should consider moving somewhere where there is quality year round baskeetball. In his court club interview Monty McCutchen talks about moving from Texas to Los Angeles in order to pursue both school (a Masters at UCLA) and basketball (eventually in CBA and then the NBA). This year's two new NBA hires (Ben Taylor and Steve Anderson) both live in Orlando. Ben moved to Orlando after completing college in Tennessee. I have heard that a couple of other NBA guys have lived in Atlanta for a time as young officials in order to be in a "hot bed" area.

Hope this helps.
Chris