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Post contact (video)
I thought these were interesting because they took place back-to-back. Thoughts?
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Waldo from St. Mary's picked up another one of his fouls (I'm pretty sure it was the 10:54 mark in the second half if you can pull the video) where he was completely vertical. It was less off a foul than either of these two plays.
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1. Minimal contact. All created by the ball handler. Basket goes. I got nuttin.
2. Minimal? contact all created by the defender moving into the ball handler. Missed shot. FTs. If this basket goes though, I have nothing. JMO. |
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I hope I won't be the only one to tell you this, but this is a bad way to officiate. If it's a foul, just call it.
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In the first play, the shooter jumps into the defender. In the second, the defender moves into the shooter, knocking him off balance. There are a lot harder fouls then that in a college game, but I would say the calls are certainly not terrible, even if we decide they are incorrect.
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First play defender is the primary defender isn't responsible for any of the contact and the basket went. Moving on.
2nd play defender is coming in as secondary. Steps into shooter and is responsible for contact. Not sure I would have had enough there to call it, but no problem with the foul call.
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Both plays ruled correctly IMO.
1) B1 was legal, and contact initiated by A1 caused B1 to bend over. 2) B1 still moving into A1 when A1 begins upward motion.
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Two correct calls.
Nothing in play 1, and a defensive blocking foul in play 2. No foul in play 1 as contact was created by Team A. Foul in play 2 because at the time of contact, Team B was moving forward.
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I agree with everyone, but what looks funny is the message that's sent by the initial mechanics used by the official on play #2. He clearly is not calling a push or a block. His motion indicates he's calling a foul because the defenders arms were not vertical.
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The defender did move his arms forward. And forward enough to be beyond vertical in my book. However, the illegal contact for me is with the body.
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I agree with these calls.
1. No way I have anything here. 2. I noticed his arms coming down into the jumping shooter. I'm comfortable with calling either that contact or the body. Either way, two shots.
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