Post contact (video)

[zm1283]

Waldo from St. Mary's picked up another one of his fouls (I'm pretty sure it was the 10:54 mark in the second half if you can pull the video) where he was completely vertical. It was less off a foul than either of these two plays.

[Sharpshooternes]

1. Minimal contact. All created by the ball handler. Basket goes. I got nuttin.
2. Minimal? contact all created by the defender moving into the ball handler. Missed shot. FTs. If this basket goes though, I have nothing. JMO.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

1. Minimal contact. All created by the ball handler. Basket goes. I got nuttin.
2. Minimal? contact all created by the defender moving into the ball handler. Missed shot. FTs. If this basket goes though, I have nothing. JMO.

I hope I won't be the only one to tell you this, but this is a bad way to officiate. If it's a foul, just call it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I hope I won't the only one to tell you this, but this is a bad way to officiate. If it's a foul, just call it.

Agreed, and I think officiating is moving away from this. I haven't watched the video, but I don't base my call on wehther the basket went in.

If the contact is both illegal and makes the shot noticeably more difficult, it's a foul, IMO. Whether it goes in is immaterial.

[zm1283]

And you're penalizing the offense sometimes when they make the shot even though they were illegally contacted.

[junruh07]

In the first play, the shooter jumps into the defender. In the second, the defender moves into the shooter, knocking him off balance. There are a lot harder fouls then that in a college game, but I would say the calls are certainly not terrible, even if we decide they are incorrect.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by junruh07

In the first play, the shooter jumps into the defender. In the second, the defender moves into the shooter, knocking him off balance. There are a lot harder fouls then that in a college game, but I would say the calls are certainly not terrible, even if we decide they are incorrect.

I gneerally agree with this. Red is not moving to the endline; white is. Foul on white; no foul on red.

[TriggerMN]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I hope I won't be the only one to tell you this, but this is a bad way to officiate. If it's a foul, just call it.

Tell that to the NBA guys.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by TriggerMN

Tell that to the NBA guys.

Okay?

None of us (That I know of) work NBA games, so it isn't really relevant right now.