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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 03:15pm
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Ball on the ground.has nothing do with anything. Fouls on a 3pt shooter are often late in occurring and often called as shooting fouls when they are not.

Pending a better timeline/description we are stuck.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 03:24pm
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I thought I was accurate in describing the play.. What questions do you guys have?
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 03:36pm
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I thought I was accurate in describing the play.. What questions do you guys have?
What was the status of the ball when the fouls occurred?
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 03:48pm
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Ball was bouncing (loose) on court when whistles sounded.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 03:53pm
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Ball was bouncing (loose) on court when whistles sounded.
When the whistles sounded isn't relevant. POI is based on when the ball became dead, which is not when the whistles sounded. It's when the fouls occurred.

If the fouls occurred while the shot was in the air, go to the arrow if he missed. If it was when the ball was still in the shooter's hand, then A gets the ball back based on POI.
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I'm confused. How could there possibly be a foul against an airborne shooter and a simultaneous foul by Awhomever while jostling for rebounding position...with the whistles for both blowing while the ball is bouncing on the court? That's a lot of hang time.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:51pm
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I'm confused. How could there possibly be a foul against an airborne shooter and a simultaneous foul by Awhomever while jostling for rebounding position...with the whistles for both blowing while the ball is bouncing on the court? That's a lot of hang time.
Ball hit floor once when whistles sounded..
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:27pm
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Ball was bouncing (loose) on court when whistles sounded.
What was the status of the ball when the fouls occurred? It doesn't matter when the whistles sounded.
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What was the status of the ball when the fouls occurred? It doesn't matter when the whistles sounded.

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According to C, ball was in the air when her foul occurred.
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Bryan,

According to C, ball was in the air when her foul occurred.
Either way, airborne shooter or not, did both of the fouls actually occur at the same time? It doesn't matter when the whistles blew, just when the fouls actually happened.

If one foul actually occurred first, you penalize that foul and ignore the other. UNLESS, that "other" foul is flagrant or intentional.
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