Telling Teams Direction They Are Going?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by deecee

Those would have been my teams first 2 points of the game

Did you drink heavily after games?

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by BatteryPowered

I have just got into the habit of moving the the division line....

Where do you move the division line to?

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by referee99

...sound the whistle to alert players that play is about to begin...

...there it is...

[brainbrian]

If the players are lined up in the "wrong" direction where does the lead official go? Does he go stand under the "wrong" basket?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by brainbrian

If the players are lined up in the "wrong" direction where does the lead official go? Does he go stand under the "wrong" basket?

I think you have answered your own question. That would make him the trail wouldn't it?

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by brainbrian

If the players are lined up in the "wrong" direction where does the lead official go? Does he go stand under the "wrong" basket?

No.

3 man mechanics, I'd line up on the end line in the direction where the team with the ball will be going. The center official on the opposite side of the table can cheat toward the division line if needed to assure proper coverage on any activity that occurs in the backcourt.

2 man mechanics, if I'm lead and the offensive team is sending all their players to the backcourt for a trick play like this, I'm likely lining up opposite side from my partner and at a minimum, cheating up near the division line if I don't have any.competitive matchups to referee in the frontcourt. Actual location will depend on where the players are located.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

No.

3 man mechanics, I'd line up on the end line in the direction where the team with the ball will be going. The center official on the opposite side of the table can cheat toward the division line if needed to assure proper coverage on any activity that occurs in the backcourt.

2 man mechanics, if I'm lead and the offensive team is sending all their players to the backcourt for a trick play like this, I'm likely lining up opposite side from my partner and at a minimum, cheating up near the division line if I don't have any.competitive matchups to referee in the frontcourt. Actual location will depend on where the players are located.

2 man: I'm not sure there's really a need. The point of this play is not to make the throw in to the BC; it's to get a wide open play in the FC. If the defense bites, then you'll have a wide open layup with a fast-trailing defender in the lead's primary. Best to stay put, IMO. If the defense doesn't bite, the offense will be wide open in the BC anyway.

3 man: Maybe keep the center a bit high, but no need to dive into the BC (I know that's not what you said).

The only thing that might happen would be extra-curricular, but the T can easily handle that from the division line.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by deecee

I think you have answered your own question. That would make him the trail wouldn't it?

What good is the Lead doing at the other end of the court looking at an empty lane?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What good is the Lead doing at the other end of the court looking at an empty lane?

Where's the action going to be?

[brainbrian]

Perhaps I should have put a sarcastic grin after my comment. But I liked anyway what Whistles and Stripes mentioned about the other official cheating up towards the division line.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

Where's the action going to be?

If they line up in the paint in the BC, and B2 realizes what's happening and decides to grab A2's jersey, then action is in the BC; and nobody will see it.

When teams are pressing we don't wait for them down at the frontcourt endline, why would we officiate an 42' of empty court just because the throw-in is from the division line?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If they line up in the paint in the BC, and B2 realizes what's happening and decides to grab A2's jersey, then action is in the BC; and nobody will see it.

When teams are pressing we don't wait for them down at the frontcourt endline, why would we officiate an 42' of empty court just because the throw-in is from the division line?

Yeah, I might cheat up a bit just to catch the extra-curriculars, but I'm not going any higher than the top of the 3 pt arc. Most likely action is going to be a play in the paint at the right basket, with a defender chasing from behind, and I want to be in position for that.

If the defense doesn't bite, it won't matter.

[BatteryPowered]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If they line up in the paint in the BC, and B2 realizes what's happening and decides to grab A2's jersey, then action is in the BC; and nobody will see it.
When teams are pressing we don't wait for them down at the frontcourt endline, why would we officiate an 42' of empty court just because the throw-in is from the division line?

Why. The trail official should be bouncing the ball to the inbounding player. That bounce can be several feet. Then he/she simply slides down further to watch for any inappropriate behaviour. Besides, if the defense bites he will be on that baseline soon anyway. If they are looking at the officials, they will notice the one that SHOULD BE on the baseline is on the other end of the court...that will probably give it away.

Also, as far as the throw-in mechanic...I do that as soon as the teams break the huddle. But I will not point again, just give them the color. In high school most of these kids have been playing basketball for 6-10 years. If they don't know the direction of play or weren't paying attention coming out of the huddle that is a coaching issue...not an officiating issue.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BatteryPowered

Also, as far as the throw-in mechanic...I do that as soon as the teams break the huddle. But I will not point again, just give them the color. In high school most of these kids have been playing basketball for 6-10 years. If they don't know the direction of play or weren't paying attention coming out of the huddle that is a coaching issue...not an officiating issue.

Interesting. Every time I administer a throw in following any delay (timeout, injury, intermission, etc), I point and say the color right before. I don't change anything just because someone might be trying a bush-league trick play.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Interesting. Every time I administer a throw in following any delay (timeout, injury, intermission, etc), I point and say the color right before. I don't change anything just because someone might be trying a bush-league trick play.

Exactly.