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Old Sat Nov 16, 2013, 06:41pm
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reasonable accommodations
1. What does this mean? Does this mean provide accommodations so that these players may participate? Does it mean call the game easier on them? Both? My guess is the first.

2. My state association has not authorized any exceptions I know of

3. Regardless of if I am instructed to call the game easier on these players, I can do nothing to prevent an opposing coach from attacking that player. Not my prerogative. As above... "Team B is under no obligation to oblige for any player".
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Old Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:27pm
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I would have mentioned it to the coach of the other team, that way when the inevitable travel or double-dribble occurs, there is no argument.
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Old Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:33pm
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Honestly, I'll pick up on the disability on my own and adjust. I won't bother addressing it with the other coach unless he starts to whine.

As for hoping the other coach doesn't take advantage of the mismatch, that's not my job. The lesson he wants to teach his players is on him.
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Old Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:36pm
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Dan, I probably would have done it the same way you did.
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Old Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:41pm
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I think I would call a travel earlier. The coach from team A needs to pick his spots to use this player better. In a game that is close towards the end I would have a hard time ignoring such blatant violations. As far as the other team running plays for the person that is being guarded by the player with the disability, that is on them. Nothing we can do to prevent that.
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Old Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:33pm
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I think I would call a travel earlier. The coach from team A needs to pick his spots to use this player better. In a game that is close towards the end I would have a hard time ignoring such blatant violations. As far as the other team running plays for the person that is being guarded by the player with the disability, that is on them. Nothing we can do to prevent that.
It would have been different if the team had the lead when putting in the player with a disability. Because, in that case, they would gain a big advantage by having a player allowed to break the rules like that. But, the way I see it, the team was only hurting themselves while helping the other team, so why not accommodate them?

I can see this happening during the last game of the season, and the player with a disability being a senior. The coach wants to give him/her their moment. I wouldn't want to be the guy that ruins that, would you?
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Old Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:19pm
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1) I agree with the "Hey, let's get coach B over here so we can all discuss this" philosophy.

2) There's a difference between "moving the pivot foot without gaining any distance" and "running back and forth like the rabbit in the shooting gallery."
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Old Mon Nov 18, 2013, 10:07am
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Your crew? Do you do three man grammar school where you live?

Honestly, common sense in these situations. People either get it or they don't.

As Bob said, he shuffles feet, nothing starts, he's heading for concession stand you have to call something not to make a mockery of game.

Love your description how you 'nailed' him with a travel call. Attaboy
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Old Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:43pm
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In an 8th grade game, I can over looked a step or two...I can't see myself overlooking a player running with the ball for 8' once...much less 2 or more times.
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I can't see myself overlooking a player running with the ball for 8' once...much less 2 or more times.
... then don't work any Special Olympics Unified Games in your area. Officials that work these games acquire proper judgment for various situations as the game progresses. You have players of all different levels of ability, or disability, on the court at the same time. It's actually quite easy when you have coaches, players, fans, and administrators, all on the same page.

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Old Sun Nov 17, 2013, 07:25am
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... then don't work any Special Olympics Unified Games in your area. Officials that work these games acquire proper judgment for various situations as the game progresses. You have players of all different levels of ability, or disability, on the court at the same time. It's actually quite easy when you have coaches, players, fans, and administrators, all on the same page.

Different environment/venue than a middle school game a la the OP
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I would have mentioned it to the coach of the other team, that way when the inevitable travel or double-dribble occurs, there is no argument.
Bingo!!

You read my mind.

I was to lazy/complacent/busy training/blah blah blah...too do exactly that!

And that is my "CURE".

Get both coaches together PRIOR TO THE GAME...and discuss exactly what THEY want to do. Here is one instance where they are going to determine what "ACCOMODATIONS" we will "PROVIDE".

If one Coach does not want a player running all over the court, without even attempting to dribble...that is what we shall do....The Coach that says, "no way"... will now be the "bad guy"...because BOTH COACHES will have to agree... It is now up to them. They BOTH MAY alter the rules, kind of like THEIR rule of no "PRESSING IN THE BACK COURT".

I have talked all this over with my assigner...and he agrees...let the coaches decide together what THEY want to do. It's on them.

I will also be notifying our association, via email and at the next meeting, of what "procedure" to use.
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