VID Request duke vs Kansas (Video added)

[ballgame99]

Hey I'm not a fan of poorly executed jump stops and think way to many of them are allowed to be no-called, but this one it is not clear when his dribble ends. He does a hard dribble down and then jumps off one foot. Somewhere in there his dribble ends. I can't tell when that is. If his dribble ends when he has already left the ground he is allowed to have a pivot foot when he returns to the floor, which is what he does.

I certainly wouldn't argue if this was called a travel because it is very bang/bang, but I'm not going to argue when it gets no called either.

[johnny d]

Then we will have to disagree about how close or hard it is to look at this replay and decide when his dribble ended.

As for the crew viewing this play in real time. I think the official that will be the lead has a good look at when he ended his dribble. After that, his look isn't so good. He has 1 other duke player and 3 Kansas players in his way. Probably happened because he was getting beat on the play and was more worried about missing a foul than a travel. By continuing to try to get to the end line, he put himself in a worse position.

I actually think the C has a good look at this play and is in the best position to call the travel.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Hey I'm not a fan of poorly executed jump stops and think way to many of them are allowed to be no-called, but this one it is not clear when his dribble ends. He does a hard dribble down and then jumps off one foot. Somewhere in there his dribble ends. I can't tell when that is. If his dribble ends when he has already left the ground he is allowed to have a pivot foot when he returns to the floor, which is what he does.

I certainly wouldn't argue if this was called a travel because it is very bang/bang, but I'm not going to argue when it gets no called either.

This is my take. I think he ends the dribble in the air. It is not about the last foot that was on the ground that only matters, it is when they dribble stops and that occurs when he grabs the ball. And it is not obvious, it is not a violation. I am always going to give a player the benefit of the doubt. In a real game we cannot slow it down and see when the exact moment something happens all the time. And when you might not have the angle it makes it harder.

Peace

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

it is when they dribble stops and that occurs when he grabs the ball.

The bolded part of this statement is not accurate.

Art. 4. The dribble ends when:
a. The dribbler catches or carries/palms the ball by allowing it to come to rest
in one or both hands

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by johnny d

The bolded part of this statement is not accurate.

Art. 4. The dribble ends when:
a. The dribbler catches or carries/palms the ball by allowing it to come to rest
in one or both hands

That is really not anything different then what I am saying. And it is really in question of the ball came to rest in his hands until he was in the air.

Peace