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Tough for you as L to see that she caught the ball in the LDB...did the C come in with information for you? I would have, even after you empahtically signalled the block at pointed at the restricted area.
That seems like what is going to have to happen - the outside officials are going to HAVE to come in with that information. |
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It would be easier if the whole LDB was outlined or shaded. |
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Lower Defensive Block.
If the offense begins her move in the LDB, then the RA (restricted area / arc) does NOT apply. |
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Ok, so let me get this straight... on a block-charge play like this one, you have to now keep track of:
1) Did the defender obtain legal guarding position? 2) is defender inside the arc or not? 2) did offensive player "begin her move" inside the lower defensive block or not? And how do we define "begin her move"? Is this just NCAAW, or does it apply to NCAAM as well? Either way, this makes me glad that I only work FED basketball. |
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And you need to change the order of your points. They should be in the order of 3, 1, 2. |
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I don't like the fact that this is a block....it probably is but I still don't like it. That defender made great play to get position on both the first opponent and then to force the pass and still get position in front of the second opponent.
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I agree, this is an example of why I don't like the RA.
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RA =Restricted Area LDB = Lower Defensive Box...from second lane space to 3 feet outside lane line and down to end line. |
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From what I can see this shouldn’t have been a block. The offensive player started her move in the LDB and B1 obtained LGP before the crash. Jeschmit, you did what you had to do in terms of making the call. Your C needed to come over and provide information.
The upper portion is invisible but we can still use visual cues as a guideline. On this court the top of the LDBs are midway through that “Summit” logo. It looks like A2 started her move – though it wasn’t a long move – inside the LDB. It’s definitely going to be a challenge in any situation – fast break or half court – to handle this regardless of whether we’re on or off-ball.
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LDB. PC foul. But it will unfortunately take us a while to get good at it, in some of these types of plays, I think.
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Don't know anything thing about NCAA-W rules or LDB since we don't use that on NCAA-M side, but don't you guys still have the rule that all defenders in the arc are secondary defenders on odd numbered breaks and wouldn't that supersede the LDB?
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