Live ball, clock not running

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by jritchie

10.1.5 says someone does

A team shall not:
Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest, this includes
the following and similar acts:
a. When the clock is not running consuming a full minute through not being
ready when it is time to start either half.
b. Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or
from being put in play. See 7-5-1 and 8-1-2 for the resumption-of-play
procedure to use after a time-out or the intermission between quarters. The
procedure is used prior to charging a technical foul in these specific
situations.
c. Commit a violation of the throw-in boundary-line plane, as in 9-2-10, after
any team warning for delay.
d. Contact with the free thrower or a huddle of two or more players in the lane
by either team prior to a free throw following any team warning for delay.
e. Interfering with the ball following a goal after any team warning for delay.
f. Not having the court ready for play following any time-out after any team
warning for delay.

[Adam]

I see nothing in 10.1.5 that addresses this situation.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

I see nothing in 10.1.5 that addresses this situation.

" ... similar acts." ???

[Adam]

similar to what?

Originally Posted by Adam

similar to what?

10.1.5
A team shall not:
Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest, this includes
the following and similar acts:

[Adam]

There's no 'act' listed to which this is similar.

Note, for a once-in-five-lifetimes play, I don't think there's really a wrong answer.

Except for going with a DOG warning or starting a ten second count.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Adam

There's no 'act' listed to which this is similar.

Note, for a once-in-five-lifetimes play, I don't think there's really a wrong answer.

Except for going with a DOG warning or starting a ten second count.

Adam:

I am going to address what you said with regard to a DOG Warning or starting a ten-second count per NFHS Rules.

First the easy one: Ten-second Count. The ball is in Team A's Frontcout/Team B's Backcourt. The ball is Live but neither team has control of the ball therefore no ten-second count against Team B can be started.

Now for the more difficult one: DOG Warning. Which one for the four articles in R4-S47 would you apply?

MTD, Sr.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Adam:

I am going to address what you said with regard to a DOG Warning or starting a ten-second count per NFHS Rules.

First the easy one: Ten-second Count. The ball is in Team A's Frontcout/Team B's Backcourt. The ball is Live but neither team has control of the ball therefore no ten-second count against Team B can be started.

Now for the more difficult one: DOG Warning. Which one for the four articles in R4-S47 would you apply?

MTD, Sr.

I still like my suggesting of making the ball touch a player so we can just start the clock!

Even better, how about one of the official's picking the ball up and shooting it into one of the team's baskets. Live ball through the basket....2 points!

[APG]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Adam:

I am going to address what you said with regard to a DOG Warning or starting a ten-second count per NFHS Rules.

First the easy one: Ten-second Count. The ball is in Team A's Frontcout/Team B's Backcourt. The ball is Live but neither team has control of the ball therefore no ten-second count against Team B can be started.

Now for the more difficult one: DOG Warning. Which one for the four articles in R4-S47 would you apply?

MTD, Sr.

Adam was saying he wouldn't try to address this situation via a ten-second count nor a DOG. Those suggestions (along with some suggesting using the ROP) were given in the Facebook group in which this question was originally proposed.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I still like my suggesting of making the ball touch a player so we can just start the clock!

I'm pretty sure we are supposed to disregard that forced first touching.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Adam:

I am going to address what you said with regard to a DOG Warning or starting a ten-second count per NFHS Rules.

First the easy one: Ten-second Count. The ball is in Team A's Frontcout/Team B's Backcourt. The ball is Live but neither team has control of the ball therefore no ten-second count against Team B can be started.

Now for the more difficult one: DOG Warning. Which one for the four articles in R4-S47 would you apply?

MTD, Sr.

Mark, do me a favor. Take a deep breath and read my post again.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Adam

Mark, do me a favor. Take a deep breath and read my post again.

Adam:

Sorry. I guess I am getting old and senile in my old age. Besides it was past my bed time when I made my post.

MTD, Sr.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Adam:

Sorry. I guess I am getting old and senile in my old age. Besides it was past my bed time when I made my post.

MTD, Sr.

Funny, I was just asking a friend of mine if you were getting senile.

For the record, I got just as cranky when those answers were posted on FB.

[bob jenkins]

Option B: Suspend the game and let the conference / state / organizing body decide what to do. Works well especially if B is home -- they will either have to pay for new officials to finish the last two seconds, or take the loss.

Option C: Inadvertant whistle. Go to the arrow. I'd only do this if it was pointing at C.

[BillyMac]

After about ten minutes, or so, my start the clock arm would get so tired that I would have to lower it, the clock would start, two seconds later the horn would sound, and then, about a minute later, I would be enjoying a concession stand hot dog in the locker room.

Or? How about a Black player get down on his hands, and knees, and blows the ball, à la Lenny Randle, closer to his basket where White is forced to defend?