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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 05:28pm
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Clock running out

This didn't happen in my game, but what if?:
4 tics remaining tied game
A1 throws it into A2 who beats the bad defense and is heading for a layup 50 feet away.
I notice clock hasn't started, I begin a count in my head and blow it dead prior to the layup. Just prior to blowing it dead, I notice the clock is now running and has 3 seconds remaining (obviously started 2 seconds or more late) I blow whistle, clock stops and there is 2.4 remaining. We're going to OT.
I'm sure there would be some angry people there, but is this what you would do?
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 05:40pm
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What was your count?
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 05:41pm
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This didn't happen in my game, but what if?:
4 tics remaining tied game
A1 throws it into A2 who beats the bad defense and is heading for a layup 50 feet away.
I notice clock hasn't started, I begin a count in my head and blow it dead prior to the layup. Just prior to blowing it dead, I notice the clock is now running and has 3 seconds remaining (obviously started 2 seconds or more late) I blow whistle, clock stops and there is 2.4 remaining. We're going to OT.
I'm sure there would be some angry people there, but is this what you would do?
I would visibly have a count. You want to be supported by film.
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 05:54pm
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I would visibly have a count. You want to be supported by film.
Fortunately this has not happened, but by thinking about it ahead of time I would be prepared and I would have a wrist flick as my visual count
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 06:50pm
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I've done it, twice.

Now, I always have a count in the closing seconds, and I would rather stop play two seconds in, reset the clock, and have a new throw in at the appropriate spot.
To me, that's the least problematic solution.
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 08:50pm
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Fortunately this has not happened, but by thinking about it ahead of time I would be prepared and I would have a wrist flick as my visual count
Use a full arm swing for this count. You want it to be clearly visible on any video.
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 09:06pm
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If you use a full arm swing for this purpose, couldn't it conceivably cause confusion. A player or coach mistakes it for a closely guarded count?
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 09:26pm
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If you use a full arm swing for this purpose, couldn't it conceivably cause confusion. A player or coach mistakes it for a closely guarded count?
I doubt they're paying that close attention to your ARM swing with 4 seconds left.
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:35pm
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I doubt they're paying that close attention to your ARM swing with 4 seconds left.
Not with 4, but this play could have started with 12. Using a mechanic for anything other than its specified purpose so it will show up in a video doesn't seem right to me.

And I said conceivably.
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 11:37pm
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Not with 4, but this play could have started with 12. Using a mechanic for anything other than its specified purpose so it will show up in a video doesn't seem right to me.

And I said conceivably.
With that much time left to start the play, the best answer is definitely to kill the play, take off the appropriate time, and put it back in play.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 12:29am
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With that much time left to start the play, the best answer is definitely to kill the play, take off the appropriate time, and put it back in play.
Agree.
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I concur with Snaqwell's previous two posts.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 10:48am
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I concur with Snaqwell's previous two posts.
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