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So in the blarge situation we are discussiong, when do you consider it a double foul and when do you consider it a false double foul? Whether the ball is released on the try or not? I am looking at 4.19.8c and 4.19.9a.
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Double foul on a blarge. Never a false double.
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4.19.8c is a single contact which draws opposite calls from two different officials. |
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I see no reason why any double foul could not be called by two different officials. The unique thing about 4.19.8c is conflicting block/charge calls on the same play, which by definition is impossible. Others say both fouls must be reported when the officials give the conflicting preliminary signal, but I see nothing in the case play which demands this. What do you think? Hey, he asked.:D |
I'm not sure what the situations are, to be honest. But....
There would need to be more of a difference. Any time you have a double foul, neither can be a PC due to definitions. It is possible to have a double foul called by one official (not likely, but possible) on a shooter. |
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As for your last question, it would depend on which foul happened first. In the OP, I'd clear the lane and give the ball to the defense after the basket. |
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And, yes, I meant can NOT be scored. I don't think it would depend on which happened first. If there is a PC foul, the ball is dead. Subsequent contact wouldn't even be a foul unless it was intentional or flagrant (and I don't think that is the situation under discussion). So, the only way you can get two fouls where one of them is a PC foul is if the PC foul happens last. |
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In 4.19.9A , The fouls are not by players against each other. One B player fouls A1, and A1 in turn fouls a DIFFERENT B player. That makes it a false double foul. Here the "charge" is a PC foul and BOTH fouls are penalized. |
One other possibility would be a simultaneous foul. No books handy, but I have to assume that would also exclude a PC.
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