Charging rule

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by potato

IAnd can i see the RA as a rule to prevent the 2nd defender to get a cheap charge, and doesn't apply to the 1st defender, so if a guy comes flying from 3 point line into the zone D1 will get his Charging call on A1 as long as he established legal position inside the zone before A1 goes airborne?

What are the chances that the primary defender will be in the RA when the offensive player is by the three point line?

However since RA doesn't prevent the 2nd defender from jumping to block, would D1 be called for a blocking foul if contact made should he jump up for a block instead of standing still for an "illegal" charge which he would be called for blocking considering he had legal guarding position but illegal since he is the 2nd defender?

It could be a legal play (shot block), or it could be a blocking foul. It can't be a charge. Too many people think it *must* be a defensive foul and that's not true.

(All of the above subject to the rules code being used, of course.)

[potato]

I mention 3 point line just to make sure the offense is jumping from outside the RA, but i guess doesn't matter whether he jumps from inside or outside the RA right? As long as he doesn't stop his motion.

Well i saw a clip where Scottie Pippen took a Charge from Karl Malone on a 1 on 1 fastbreak, not sure whether RA exist back then though.

So the non charge rule applies only to non primary defenders yes primary can still take charge in RA?

What if it's a pick & roll, how would you then determine who is the primary defender?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

What are the chances that the primary defender will be in the RA when the offensive player is by the three point line?



It could be a legal play (shot block), or it could be a blocking foul. It can't be a charge. Too many people think it *must* be a defensive foul and that's not true.

(All of the above subject to the rules code being used, of course.)

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by potato

So the non charge rule applies only to non primary defenders yes primary can still take charge in RA?

What if it's a pick & roll, how would you then determine who is the primary defender?

Secondary defenders only -- and that term is defined and changes a bit on a rebound and a fast-break.

By knowing the game and the definitions.

[potato]

In a pick & roll should the offense pass the primary defender who is being screened would the switched defender be seen as Primary or Secondary defender?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Secondary defenders only -- and that term is defined and changes a bit on a rebound and a fast-break.

By knowing the game and the definitions.

[bob jenkins]

What does the definition of secondary defender say?

[johnny d]

No way possible the primary defender on a offensive player starting from outside the 3-point line is going to be the primary defender. Therefore that part of your hypothetical question is ridiculous and doesn't need an answer.