Intentional foul and sub?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Only the sub for that player can shoot the FTs.

To look at some crazy, hypothetical, once-in-million-years, permutations of this situation (as some of us often like to do): If A1 is unable, due to the injury, to attempt the free throws, and if there are no eligible substitutes available on Team A (injury, illness, disqualification), then the coach of Team A must select a free throw shooter from the other four Team A players on the court. If, however, the only available substitute on the Team A bench is A6, who is legally ineligible because has not yet "sat his tick" after a previous substitution (it's possible under a rare circumstance, but maybe not in the original post), then A6 must replace A1 and must attempt his free throws. The rule that a team must play with five players "trumps" the "sit a tick" rule.

Of course, its easier for all involved if A1 just "sucks it up" and shoots his own free throws.

Note: Favorite quote from a recent article in Sports Illustrated on baseball's designated hitter rule: "The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws." (Rick Wise, pitcher, 15 career home runs)

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The rule that a team must play with five players "trumps" the "sit a tick" rule.

Based on what? Is that actually a rule or an assumption? I agree with you...seems like a logical way to do it, but I was wondering if that was an opinion of the Fed.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Based on what? Is that actually a rule or an assumption? I agree with you...seems like a logical way to do it, but I was wondering if that was an opinion of the Fed.

Yes, it is.

It's been discussed here before -- you could try a search (recognizign that that doesn't always work well)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Based on what? Is that actually a rule or an assumption? Seems like a logical way to do it, but I was wondering if that was an opinion, of the Fed.

Great question Bad Zebra. One thing that I know, for sure, is that it's an opinion shared by most veteran Forum members, but, of course, that really doesn't hold any NFHS weight.

Somewhere on the Forum, is the very rare situation of A6 being replaced by substitute A2 before the first free throw by A1 in a one and one situation. After hitting the rim, while jostling for position on a possible rebound (the ball eventually goes in the basket), A3 is injured, and the coach, and trainer, after being beckoned, and coming onto the court, decide that A3 must come out of the game. As a result of injuries, illness, and disqualifications, the only available substitute on the Team A bench is A6, who, because the clock never started (remember that the ball went in), has not yet sat out his "tick". The opinion expressed by most veteran Forum members was that A6, while not having sat out a requisite "tick", must be allowed to replace A3 because the rule that a team must play with five players "trumps" the "sit a tick" rule.

Maybe it's in Nevadaref's archives? Maybe it came to me in a dream? Maybe some veteran "esteemed" Forum members can help me out here?

[BillyMac]

8.2 SITUATION B: A1 is fouled and will be shooting two free throws. After A1’s
first free-throw attempt, B6 (Team B’s only remaining eligible substitute) replaces
B2. A1’s second free-throw attempt is unsuccessful. During rebounding action for
A1’s missed second free-throw attempt, and before the clock starts, A1 pushes B3
in the back causing B3 to roll an ankle. Team B is in the bonus. B3 is unable to
immediately continue playing. Team B requests and is granted a time out in order
to allow B3 to recover from the ankle injury so as to remain in the game. B3 is still
not able to play after the time out has ended. RULING: B2 may return to the game
and replace B3 and shoot B3’s free throw attempts despite having been replaced
since he/she is the only available substitute. (3-3-4)

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Maybe some veteran "esteemed" Forum members can help me out here?

Does this get me closer to becoming an esteemed Forum member?