Coach Help

[The_Rookie]

45 seconds left in tie game..A1 fouls out and while on bench is mouthing off to my partner who called his fifth foul who was opposite the bench. I was right in front of A's bench and told the coach I can't have A1 talking from the bench to my partner and asked for his help to stop it.

Did I handle this in the best way?

With a tie game and 45 seconds left I wanted to have some restraint b4 I tagged the kid.

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

45 seconds left in tie game..A1 fouls out and while on bench is mouthing off to my partner who called his fifth foul who was opposite the bench. I was right in front of A's bench and told the coach I can't have A1 talking from the bench to my partner and asked for his help to stop it.

Did I handle this in the best way?

With a tie game and 45 seconds left I wanted to have some restraint b4 I tagged the kid.

Sounds like great restraint in a close game. If the kid has been a problem all game long and the coach knows the kid has been warned, I would be more likely to call a tech in that situation. It's all about judging the situation and weighing the rules, and what has happened up to that point in the game.

[Adam]

I honestly can't think of any scenario where I don't call this technical. Easy call, IMO.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Adam

I honestly can't think of any scenario where I don't call this technical. Easy call, IMO.

I can but there aren't many

If the kid is rockheaded enough to mouth off in that situation and his coach - or assistant, if there's one around - isn't aware enough to stop him, then he deserves whatever he gets.

[bob jenkins]

Depends on what you meant by "moputhing off" but the way you handled it is fine, to me.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I can but there aren't many

If the kid is rockheaded enough to mouth off in that situation and his coach - or assistant, if there's one around - isn't aware enough to stop him, then he deserves whatever he gets.

I'll expand just a bit. I suppose it depends, as bob says, and what is meant by "mouthing off," and it may mean something different to me than to the OP. But a coach needs to be proactive in taking care of his bench in this situation, IMO. It would be pretty easy for him to hear the comments and address them before I had the chance, and I'd likely give him a second to address it before I stepped in. Most games around here, the coach would shut this down quickly.

In the case where I'm willing to ask the coach to step up, it'll be something along the lines of, "Coach, do you want to take care of your bench, or should I?" And if his response isn't immediately to address his player, we're shooting free throws.

[Multiple Sports]

The above post is perfectly stated.....

Adam - your hoop IQ goes through the roof when not responding to Billy Mac

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

45 seconds left in tie game..A1 fouls out and while on bench is mouthing off to my partner who called his fifth foul who was opposite the bench. I was right in front of A's bench and told the coach I can't have A1 talking from the bench to my partner and asked for his help to stop it.

Did I handle this in the best way?

With a tie game and 45 seconds left I wanted to have some restraint b4 I tagged the kid.

I'd say that you didn't support your partner and allowed the kid to get away with unsporting behavior.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by nevadaref

i'd say that you didn't support your partner and allowed the kid to get away with unsporting behavior.

+1

[Bad Zebra]

I'd say you handled it well (OP). I think I'd hold back on whacking him and see if the coach addresses...along with my comment like "Coach, please control your bench. This is the only time I'm going to say it". MOST coaches are going to jump on the kid because they realize he could cost them the game due to his nonsense.

If the coach does nothing and doesn't acknowledge the comment, all bets are off and the very next "peep" from the bench is getting a swift T.

[BigBaldGuy]

We all handle these situations differently. How we choose to handle them will determine what levels we actually work. Each one of these plays will be treated on an individual basis. But I am goign to try to find a way not to whack this kid instead of finding a reason to whack him...if it can be avoided. I have whacked many a player but lets not fool ourselves...time and score do mean a lot in this play.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigBaldGuy

We all handle these situations differently. How we choose to handle them will determine what levels we actually work. Each one of these plays will be treated on an individual basis. But I am goign to try to find a way not to whack this kid instead of finding a reason to whack him...if it can be avoided. I have whacked many a player but lets not fool ourselves...time and score do mean a lot in this play.

Time and score may have an affect on how I'd call it, but not in this case. Tie game, bench needs to learn to shut their collective pie hole. Blow out game and the losing team is getting a bit restless? I'd be more inclined to actually approach the coach and give him a chance to deal with it.

Tie game? Summer ball? Perfect time to learn the lesson, IMO.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BigBaldGuy

We all handle these situations differently. How we choose to handle them will determine what levels we actually work. Each one of these plays will be treated on an individual basis. But I am goign to try to find a way not to whack this kid instead of finding a reason to whack him...if it can be avoided. I have whacked many a player but lets not fool ourselves...time and score do mean a lot in this play.

Absolute garbage. Time and score NEVER mean anything when it comes to unsporting behavior. That needs to get penalized consistently. Failure to do so is an affront to officiating in general and the game itself.

Stop thinking like a coach and start having the mindset of an official.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

45 seconds left in tie game..A1 fouls out and while on bench is mouthing off to my partner who called his fifth foul who was opposite the bench. I was right in front of A's bench and told the coach I can't have A1 talking from the bench to my partner and asked for his help to stop it.

Did I handle this in the best way?

From your description and the fact you're asking the group whether you handled it properly it sounds as though you have some remorse over not calling the T. Someone up the food chain told a group of us recently that we generally only regret the ones we don't call.

Back to the OP: I only just put the scene together in my head (hey, I'm old). Was A1 on the bench saying things to your partner that were loud enough for your partner to hear 40-50 feet away? If that's the case then a T is a no-brainer regardless of time/score. Even if it was loud enough for you to hear - obviously it was - I don't think letting it slide is proper. A kid fouls out we all know there will be some grumbling but after that initial response (s)he needs to be quiet.