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Old Mon May 06, 2013, 08:38am
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basket-interference?

Hi all, need help with a basket-interference call...here are the details...

Player 1 has a breakaway dunk with no one around him. He jumps not quite high enough and it becomes a 2-handed lay-in...lays the ball just over the rim with both hands (the ball is peaking there for a split-second and barely moving down as he lets go of it), then grabs the rim with both hands and pulls down.

The ball is about 1/3 below the rim and 2/3rds above the rim-plane as he yanks the rim down to where the ball is technically above the pulled-down rim, then lets go of the rim. The snap-back of the rim and net jars the ball up out of the basket a few inches, but still in the cylinder and falls through.

BI?
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Old Mon May 06, 2013, 08:49am
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Once he lets go of the ball, the "dunk exception" does not apply -- BI.
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NFHS 4-6

ART. 1
Basket interference occurs when a player:
Touches the ball or any part of the basket (including the net) while the ball is on or within either basket.

ART. 4
Pulls down a movable ring so that it contacts the ball before the ring returns to its original position.
It doesn't sound as though A1 violated rules 4-6-2 or 4-6-3, which only deal with touching the ball, so the question is whether A1 violated either of the above. By your description it sounds as though A1 violated 4-6-1.
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Old Mon May 06, 2013, 10:36am
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thanks

Thanks for the replies! This will help settle the debate we had after the play.
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Old Mon May 06, 2013, 11:49am
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It doesn't sound as though A1 violated rules 4-6-2 or 4-6-3, which only deal with touching the ball, so the question is whether A1 violated either of the above. By your description it sounds as though A1 violated 4-6-1.
Sounded like he also violated Article 4 too.
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Sounded like he also violated Article 4 too.
Right. For some reason - my guess is fatigue - I didn't read the rim part of the OP correctly.
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Right. For some reason - my guess is fatigue - I didn't read the rim part of the OP correctly.
Well, it happened so fast, but it really appeared that it wasn't the snap-back and contact of the pulled-down rim that popped the ball back out (still in the cylinder), but the net itself, more taut at the rim, flipped the ball back out, before it fell in. It could've been the rim too, but that wasn't specifically seen.

That probably doesn't make a difference, but Art. 4 mentions only the rim specificially contacting the ball, not the net itself.

BI was called, but there were those whose voiced a differenet opinion.
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Well, it happened so fast, but it really appeared that it wasn't the snap-back and contact of the pulled-down rim that popped the ball back out (still in the cylinder), but the net itself, more taut at the rim, flipped the ball back out, before it fell in. It could've been the rim too, but that wasn't specifically seen.

That probably doesn't make a difference, but Art. 4 mentions only the rim specificially contacting the ball, not the net itself.

BI was called, but there were those whose voiced a differenet opinion.
BI should have been called, for grabbing the rim while the ball was in the basket. Good call.
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