Multiple Foul

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

I don't recall Camron making the claim that anyone else should call them either. I've only seen that claim from one member.

Well, that one member would obviously state the Camron does not have courage. Since he is 3 hours behind me I just want to accelerate the process.

[Nevadaref]

Am I late?

Since I've had the opportunity to meet Camron in person and have a great deal of respect for him, rather than speculate I believe that it would best to just ask him directly what he would do on the court in such a situation.

Let's set the scenario and state a few givens.
A1 drives and during the act of shooting is whacked on the arm by B1. The Lead official observes this action and whistles immediately for a foul.
A1 goes airborne and releases the ball. Just after the release and prior to A1 returning to the floor B2 comes from the C's side of the lane and while attempting to block the shot swings late and strikes the shooter in the head.
The C judges this action to be a foul. Now you are the C. Do you blow the whistle or not? If so, how do you proceed with you partner in the Lead position?

[Adam]

This is a situation where I'd consider a multiple foul, but that is so completely different than my proposed situation, which actually happened, that it deserves its own thread and poll.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

This is a situation where I'd consider a multiple foul, but that is so completely different than my proposed situation, which actually happened, that it deserves its own thread and poll.

Yes, it is completely different. But to play along.

Where I work (or should I say, who I work for) would expect the 2 officials to come together briefly and have the C take the "obvious" foul to the table. (with the possibility that we have a IF/FF1).

And until such time that a coach sends in some film and asks why a multiple foul wasn't called I doubt anyone would bat an eye, at least not around these parts.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Yes, it is completely different. But to play along.

Where I work (or should I say, who I work for) would expect the 2 officials to come together briefly and have the C take the "obvious" foul to the table. (with the possibility that we have a IF/FF1).

And until such time that a coach sends in some film and asks why a multiple foul wasn't called I doubt anyone would bat an eye, at least not around these parts.

That's how I'd handle it as well.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Until such time that a coach sends in some film and asks why a multiple foul wasn't called ...

Don't hold your breath. You're assuming that coaches know what a multiple foul is? Wow? I've got this bridge that I want to sell. It crosses the East River from Manhattan to Brooklyn. A lot of cars travel on it every day, so whoever buys this from me can make a lot of money by putting a toll on the bridge. Interested?

[JRutledge]

We do not call multiple fouls because of the storm it will bring. We have coaches that complain if the foul difference is 7-2 and if we call a multiple foul on the team with 7, now it is 9-2. And the next foul we are shooting two shots every single time in that half. And you think a coach that does not know this is a rule is going to be like, "OK I am good with that."

Pick one and move on.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Multiple fouls ... Pick one and move on.

Agree. Absent an intentional foul, or flagrant foul, I am probably more likely to call my first ten second fee throw violation before I call my first multiple foul. Call me any name in the book that you guys want to, but I simply don't want to be "that guy". As far as I'm concerned, again, absent an intentional foul, or flagrant foul, the multiple foul rule is a "test question" rule. I called a "fist violation" a few years ago and took a lot of grief from my colleagues. It took a long time to shake that one off.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Am I late?

Since I've had the opportunity to meet Camron in person and have a great deal of respect for him, rather than speculate I believe that it would best to just ask him directly what he would do on the court in such a situation.

Let's set the scenario and state a few givens.
A1 drives and during the act of shooting is whacked on the arm by B1. The Lead official observes this action and whistles immediately for a foul.
A1 goes airborne and releases the ball. Just after the release and prior to A1 returning to the floor B2 comes from the C's side of the lane and while attempting to block the shot swings late and strikes the shooter in the head.
The C judges this action to be a foul. Now you are the C. Do you blow the whistle or not? If so, how do you proceed with you partner in the Lead position?

When I hear a whistle from my partner for a foul, I'm not likely to come in with another foul at all unless I think it was intentional or flagrant.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

When I hear a whistle from my partner for a foul, I'm not likely to come in with another foul at all unless I think it was intentional or flagrant.

Wow? A new twist? A multiple foul from multiple officials? Interesting. Very interesting.

[JugglingReferee]

I've seen a multiple foul called once and I believe it was the right call. Severe contact affecting the shot must be called. Contact with affects a safe landing in a non-trivial manner should also be called.